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jb3 bitrate
« on: March 04, 2004, 08:48:24 AM »
so i finally got a new computer and loaded notmad onto it.  (getting the old audigy soundcard loaded onto the new box is another story...)  did my first transfer last night and noticed that my bitrates are different for different sets of the same show.  is there some step i'm missing while getting this thing into record mode?

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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2004, 10:09:26 AM »
so i finally got a new computer and loaded notmad onto it.  (getting the old audigy soundcard loaded onto the new box is another story...)  did my first transfer last night and noticed that my bitrates are different for different sets of the same show.  is there some step i'm missing while getting this thing into record mode?

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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2004, 10:17:07 AM »
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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2004, 10:24:29 AM »
so the notmad ISNT what came w/ the jb3 then, right???i havent had ANY problems w/ the oroginal cd that came w/ the jb3 :)
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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2004, 10:37:55 AM »
i don't think it's a software issue, unless it's the transfer (jb3>computer)bitrate.  it appears to be the recorded bitrate.  anyone? buelher?

bean, check out redchair http://www.redchairsoftware.com/notmad/

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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2004, 10:52:33 AM »
I'm confused as to what's actually happening here.  I *think* what I'm hearing is:

You had two 16-bit/44.1kHz recordings on the JB3.
You transferred both to PC using Notmad Explorer.
Once on your PC - and with no additional editing by you - the two recordings appear to have...different bit-depths, different sample rates, ?? This is where I'm confused.
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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2004, 02:54:40 PM »
The JB3 picks up what bitrate you feed it automatically.

*edit*
Assuming you have a pre/ad that gives you the option.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2004, 02:56:05 PM by Kindguy »
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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2004, 04:03:16 PM »
I'm confused as to what's actually happening here.  I *think* what I'm hearing is:

You had two 16-bit/44.1kHz recordings on the JB3.
You transferred both to PC using Notmad Explorer.
Once on your PC - and with no additional editing by you - the two recordings appear to have...different bit-depths, different sample rates, ?? This is where I'm confused.

before the transfer, i'm looking at moe, mule, and dread clampitt sets on the jb3 using notmad.  one of the columns on the right is the bitrate column.  within the same show, the bitrate was different for each set( 1,2,e).  no setings on the v3 changed during the show.

they're all transferred now, so the next time i'll have to really recreate the environment will be springfest on the 25th, and boy will i have a lot of music.  i'll probably end up dumping the shows every night onto the lappy, or possibly taking my desktop over there for the firewire transferability.

any thoughts?

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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2004, 07:40:05 PM »
A couple thoughts:

1) I'm not familiar with Notmad, but perhaps it is automatically converting to mp3 when it is used to transfer your recordings from your JB3 to your pc.

2)  You didn't set the JB3 properly when you made the recordings.  Each time you use the JB3 to record, you need to tell it you want to record a .wav file.  It does not automatically default to the last setting you used it at (wav, persumably), but instead defaults to converting the incoming digital stream (from the V3 in this case) to mp3 at some particular bitrate, I forget which.

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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2004, 09:47:24 PM »
before the transfer, i'm looking at moe, mule, and dread clampitt sets on the jb3 using notmad.  one of the columns on the right is the bitrate column.  within the same show, the bitrate was different for each set( 1,2,e).  no setings on the v3 changed during the show.

Hey JR - just had a chance to check this out here at home.  I think this is just a bug in Notmad.  When you transferred, were all the files still 16-bit, 44.1k/48k or whatever sample rate at which you recorded?

Looking at my JB3 in Notmad Explorer right now, 9 recordings and Notmad lists every single one as a different bitrate (-288, -33, 1507, 1528, 4, 425, -434, -104, 1415), but when I transfer they're all 16-bit/44.1kHz as they should be.  Bug city, sounds like, I wouldn't sweat it.
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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2004, 09:54:05 PM »
nice find brian

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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2004, 12:19:17 AM »
BTW I was thinking sample rate in the above post.  :P
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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2004, 12:23:31 AM »
what's the difference between bitrate and sample rate?
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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2004, 12:29:57 AM »
what's the difference between bitrate and sample rate?

bitrate-16 bit, 24 bit
sample rate- 44.1 KHz, 48 KHz, etc.
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Re:jb3 bitrate
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2004, 12:31:18 AM »
right on... so word length=bit rate?


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