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Gear / Technical Help => Battery Boxes, Preamps, Mixers, ADCs, and Processors => Topic started by: jdawg on May 10, 2005, 11:16:40 PM
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What can I do about this? Anyone want to trade modded UA-5's for a period of time? Thinking maybe the T-mod might sound better to me with these mics. I see the V2 can be had for a decent price these days? Would that be any brighter?
thanks
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[1] How many recordings have you made with that setup? How did it sound at the performance? What was your location, mic config, etc.? Could just be a bass-heavy mix / venue / performance.
[2] What's your playback system, and do you ever intend to change / upgrade it, or are you set for life? You may appreciate the added bass if/when you change / upgrade your playback system.
[3] Have you considered applying a HPF in post-production to bring the bass levels down a bit?
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[1] How many recordings have you made with that setup? How did it sound at the performance? What was your location, mic config, etc.? Could just be a bass-heavy mix / venue / performance.
[2] What's your playback system, and do you ever intend to change / upgrade it, or are you set for life? You may appreciate the added bass if/when you change / upgrade your playback system.
[3] Have you considered applying a HPF in post-production to bring the bass levels down a bit?
qmft
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I've run them maybe 10-12 times now. Always read in here to run them din, so that's what I've been doing. Thinking maybe I should try x/y like I did with the 300's especially in some of these smaller bars. Yeah, some of these venues maybe a bit bass-heavy. I love the UA-5 though, I guess I should experiment a bit more with configs and setup. Appreciate the feedback / food for though, Brian.
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You can also always send it back to Oade's to be re-modded with a P or T mod instead of W (for a nominal charge, of course).
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What caps? Cards?
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XY with the CK61's can help cut down on the bass.
Running the CK63 hyper caps will also definitely reduce the amount of bass on your recording.
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PM sent.
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XY with the CK61's can help cut down on the bass.
Running the CK63 hyper caps will also definitely reduce the amount of bass on your recording.
I agree with this. Not as much bass with the hypers. Of course, you could also run the bass rolloff on the mics and give that a shot..
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[1] How many recordings have you made with that setup? How did it sound at the performance? What was your location, mic config, etc.? Could just be a bass-heavy mix / venue / performance.
[2] What's your playback system, and do you ever intend to change / upgrade it, or are you set for life? You may appreciate the added bass if/when you change / upgrade your playback system.
[3] Have you considered applying a HPF in post-production to bring the bass levels down a bit?
qmft
quantum mechanical fragmentation theory ?
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hey John2525, I run my 480's into a UA5 that only has the digimod and its the best unit I have paired with mics with of the UA5/V3/MiniMe combos (V3 was way too transparent, MiniMe was way way too bassy), and it makes beautiful recordings, I suggest just picking up a used digimod unit and you are set, to hear the results stream my STS9 show off archive.org from 2-15-05; made using no bass roll off, DIN, FOB, easily one of the best recordings I have ever made, it might work for you as well, and cheap, my unit was only $285 with batteries, charger, cord, box, manual, delivered
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Trust me, I'm not arguing about the UA-5 in any fashion, this box is great. It's just that I have trouble hearing the 'highs' due to some hearing problems (no, not related to loud music) and I always find myself turning up the treble, etc... to get rid of the bass. As you can see from my sig line, I'm running 63's.
Thanks guys.
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It's just that I have trouble hearing the 'highs' due to some hearing problems (no, not related to loud music) and I always find myself turning up the treble, etc... to get rid of the bass.
Given this, maybe EQ on playback (as you have been doing), might be your best option for making your recordings sound good to you on your playback gear, rather than applying heavy coloration to the original recording. That way you still have a good representation of how the show actually sounded on your tape, then when listening you can do as much fine-tuning as you like. Just a thought, of course YMMV.
Take care,
Ben
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Although I don't use a UA-5, I'm still very curious about this. Does the wmod apply heavy coloration? I assumed that the differances between p, t and w mods are quite subtle, requiring a good playback system to hear the differances. I'm wondering if the wmod is the culprit to the excessive bass.
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Although I don't use a UA-5, I'm still very curious about this. Does the wmod apply heavy coloration? I assumed that the differances between p, t and w mods are quite subtle, requiring a good playback system to hear the differances. I'm wondering if the wmod is the culprit to the excessive bass.
I don't have hands-on UA5 experience, but I would not think that the mods apply "heavy" coloration and that you are probably right in that the various mods are subtle differences in "flavoring" between the units. When I referred to applying heavy coloration to the original recording I was thinking something more along the lines of using the HPF on the 480 bodies.
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Although I don't use a UA-5, I'm still very curious about this. Does the wmod apply heavy coloration? I assumed that the differances between p, t and w mods are quite subtle, requiring a good playback system to hear the differances. I'm wondering if the wmod is the culprit to the excessive bass.
I don't have hands-on UA5 experience, but I would not think that the mods apply "heavy" coloration and that you are probably right in that the various mods are subtle differences in "flavoring" between the units. When I referred to applying heavy coloration to the original recording I was thinking something more along the lines of using the HPF on the 480 bodies.
Thanks for the feedback. I hesitated before using the word "heavy" because I didn't want to imply thats what you meant, but it's the best word I could come up with that represented the theme of the thread.
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Although I don't use a UA-5, I'm still very curious about this. Does the wmod apply heavy coloration? I assumed that the differances between p, t and w mods are quite subtle, requiring a good playback system to hear the differances. I'm wondering if the wmod is the culprit to the excessive bass.
I heard somewhere that Doug started doing the w-mod to compliment the 480's...
I run 480> Mini-Me and really like it. Some say the Mini-Me is warm.
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I don't think I have ever heard 480's and too much bass in the same sentance before....
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I don't think I have ever heard 480's and too much bass in the same sentance before....
you havent herd some of my 480>v3 tapes then believe it or not
the 480's pick up what they hear, no bass in the show=no bass on the recording, lots of bass=lots of bass in the recording ;)
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It's just that I have trouble hearing the 'highs' due to some hearing problems (no, not related to loud music) and I always find myself turning up the treble, etc... to get rid of the bass.
Given this, maybe EQ on playback (as you have been doing), might be your best option for making your recordings sound good to you on your playback gear, rather than applying heavy coloration to the original recording. That way you still have a good representation of how the show actually sounded on your tape, then when listening you can do as much fine-tuning as you like. Just a thought, of course YMMV.
Take care,
Ben
I think this is where we can end this thread.... thanks all!
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I don't think I have ever heard 480's and too much bass in the same sentance before....
you havent herd some of my 480>v3 tapes then believe it or not
the 480's pick up what they hear, no bass in the show=no bass on the recording, lots of bass=lots of bass in the recording ;)
I am sure that is true....most of the recordings I have heard with the 480's where done with the hyper caps, which would tone that bass down, I am sure the omni's thump
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I don't think I have ever heard 480's and too much bass in the same sentance before....
you havent herd some of my 480>v3 tapes then believe it or not
the 480's pick up what they hear, no bass in the show=no bass on the recording, lots of bass=lots of bass in the recording ;)
I am sure that is true....most of the recordings I have heard with the 480's where done with the hyper caps, which would tone that bass down, I am sure the omni's thump
i may pull the trigger on the omni's this summer before moedown, i bet ck62>480>v3 is da bomb :)
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do it...best pattern IMO when you can use it....omni's at moe down would probably sound phat...though I am curious how it would sound with that big hill behind you.
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that may be the perfect place to do it tho, cause i could literally clamp an omni on each side of the SBD and it nice and FOB taboot
the mountain i dont think would affect it too badly at all, i know a totally flat field would be ideal, but ibet those split omnis at the moedown would own j00
at the very worst, id like to borrow a pair and maybe do a diff set ofcaps eachday, maybe split omnis one day, then cards the next, and hypers the last day
my FOB moedown tapes from last year w/ the hypers are possibly some of the best tapes ive ever made, i usuallyget nothing but RAVE reviews from my close buddies who know theyre shizzle :)
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i may pull the trigger on the omni's this summer before moedown, i bet ck62>480>v3 is da bomb :)
i vote you do it. even if you can't buy them, maybe you can borrow them from someone
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i may pull the trigger on the omni's this summer before moedown, i bet ck62>480>v3 is da bomb :)
i vote you do it. even if you can't buy them, maybe you can borrow them from someone
exactly ;D
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the only thing that i can think of is. the v3 is a great piece. the ua5 on the other hand isn't, for 1 i wouldn't buy something that need so many mods, warm,t, . the company should of thought of the mods before coming out with the ua5
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the only thing that i can think of is. the v3 is a great piece. the ua5 on the other hand isn't, for 1 i wouldn't buy something that need so many mods, warm,t, . the company should of thought of the mods before coming out with the ua5
I couldn't disagree with you more
The Oade's took a piece of gear that wasn't meant for our purposes and figured out that with a simple modification to the output you could run the unit without a computer. From there the other mods are just to tweak the flavor and achieve a specific sound. When I had a V3 I used to run an m148 in front of it in order to tweak the sound of the V3....
you might not like the sound of teh box, or the ergonomics but to criticize it because it's possible to mod is, I think, a bit silly
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the only thing that i can think of is. the v3 is a great piece. the ua5 on the other hand isn't, for 1 i wouldn't buy something that need so many mods, warm,t, . the company should of thought of the mods before coming out with the ua5
I couldn't disagree with you more
The Oade's took a piece of gear that wasn't meant for our purposes and figured out that with a simple modification to the output you could run the unit without a computer. From there the other mods are just to tweak the flavor and achieve a specific sound. When I had a V3 I used to run an m148 in front of it in order to tweak the sound of the V3....
you might not like the sound of teh box, or the ergonomics but to criticize it because it's possible to mod is, I think, a bit silly
yep, the ua5 is great. all the contstant fluffing htat went around here when this was the hot ticket item is definitely justified. I have without a doubt made better TL>wUA5 tapes than TL>V3 or TL>V2>modsbm1 tapes. Of course not all of them were better :P, but I think the box definitely compares to the higher end all-in-1 boxes.
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Right now I'm running the 483>w-mod and the sound is incredible, my most recent show..... (http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=14336) Dollar for Dollar you wont find a better unit then the oade modded Ua-5. I would put it in the same class as the minime and V3.