Topic: AKG 414 XLS help/advice

[alienbobz]

Decided to get the AKG414 XLS since I have always wanted a pair of these. I am expecting to get these mics in mid October. Right now I am looking for the following advice:

Carrying the mics in bag - I have some leather cases that might work. Might end up getting a pelican case or something else.
X/Y, Blumlein, M/S setup - One of the reasons I want the AKGs is  to run Blum and M/S. I have run Blum with my LSD2 and I loved the sound. I want to eventually try M/S but I need a bar to do any of these.
General mics setup and pattern - With so many options, what do people prefer? I plan to try out NOS Wide/Sub Cards at some point since I never had the option to run this.

Any other help would be great.

[Hypnocracy]

Would love a pair of 414's...some day.

I have a buddy whom does what you speak of with a leather pouch...you may want to consider a Stereo Pair of AKG 414's and get the case...eBay has deals on them for less than $1600 if you will accept used or store samples....I have a Stereo pair of ADK A-51TL's...Mine are kept in the ADK Stereo Pair Case they came in...

I use a K&M stereo bar to run DINa, DIN or NOS on the ADK's...When I want to run Blumlein I've set up Nano Clamps on my Bogen Tripod...

[alienbobz]

Would love a pair of 414's...some day.

I have a buddy whom does what you speak of with a leather pouch...you may want to consider a Stereo Pair of AKG 414's and get the case...eBay has deals on them for less than $1600 if you will accept used or store samples....I have a Stereo pair of ADK A-51TL's...Mine are kept in the ADK Stereo Pair Case they came in...

I use a K&M stereo bar to run DINa, DIN or NOS on the ADK's...When I want to run Blumlein I've set up Nano Clamps on my Bogen Tripod...

I am actually getting a stereo pair with the case. The case just looks too big to carry around to concerts. Where can I get the Nano Clamps?

Edit: Found the Nano Clamp: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/572347-REG/Manfrotto_386B_386B_Nano_Clamp.html It looks like the superclamp, which I have two of those already. Would that work?

[Hypnocracy]

Sure...the super clamps will work...a bit large but definitely functional...

There are knockoff's of the nano...you can get two for less than one Manfrotto if you are still interested...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Articulating-Magic-Friction-Arm-Small-Super-Clamp-Small-Crab-Pliers-Clip-/200771860444?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebeef77dc

[alienbobz]

Sure...the super clamps will work...a bit large but definitely functional...

There are knockoff's of the nano...you can get two for less than one Manfrotto if you are still interested...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Articulating-Magic-Friction-Arm-Small-Super-Clamp-Small-Crab-Pliers-Clip-/200771860444?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebeef77dc

How would you go about getting the shockmount on the clamp? I have a stud like this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/304651-REG/Manfrotto_013_013_Double_Ended_Spigot.html I am assuming you would have to get a converter for the shockmount.

[ellaguru]

yeah the supplied stereo set's box is bulky, but its ok.  i carry my set in the little velvet bags that came with them, then bubble wrapped in my bag.  never a prob.  the only issue is that one of my shocks has got issues due to my poor care of it.  they can be a bit fragile when not cared for.  i just had them in my bag with little/no protection at all. 

[alienbobz]

yeah the supplied stereo set's box is bulky, but its ok.  i carry my set in the little velvet bags that came with them, then bubble wrapped in my bag.  never a prob.  the only issue is that one of my shocks has got issues due to my poor care of it.  they can be a bit fragile when not cared for.  i just had them in my bag with little/no protection at all. 

Would the standard shockmounts fit into a crown royal bag?

[Hypnocracy]

Sure...the super clamps will work...a bit large but definitely functional...

There are knockoff's of the nano...you can get two for less than one Manfrotto if you are still interested...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Articulating-Magic-Friction-Arm-Small-Super-Clamp-Small-Crab-Pliers-Clip-/200771860444?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebeef77dc

How would you go about getting the shockmount on the clamp? I have a stud like this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/304651-REG/Manfrotto_013_013_Double_Ended_Spigot.html I am assuming you would have to get a converter for the shockmount.

3/8 16 thread Stud and a 3/8>5/8 adapter & stand nut

[alienbobz]

Sure...the super clamps will work...a bit large but definitely functional...

There are knockoff's of the nano...you can get two for less than one Manfrotto if you are still interested...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Articulating-Magic-Friction-Arm-Small-Super-Clamp-Small-Crab-Pliers-Clip-/200771860444?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ebeef77dc

How would you go about getting the shockmount on the clamp? I have a stud like this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/304651-REG/Manfrotto_013_013_Double_Ended_Spigot.html I am assuming you would have to get a converter for the shockmount.

3/8 16 thread Stud and a 3/8>5/8 adapter & stand nut

Do you know where you got the 3/8 16 thread Stud? I have a bunch of 3/8>5/8 adapters. I also don't want to get the adapter stuck in the shockmount, which is something I have done before. I was also thinking of getting two of these: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/712234-REG/On_Stage_TM01_TM01_Microphone_Table.html just for the studs so I could connect them to the superclamps.

[Hypnocracy]

I made mine...Hacksaw and a 3/8 16 thread Carriage bolt...and 5/8 adapters with a slot on both ends and a Leatherman helps with the issue of getting stuck...I've considered Locktite too

[alienbobz]

I made mine...Hacksaw and a 3/8 16 thread Carriage bolt...

Oh. I had something similar made for mounting my LSD2. I could probably try it out. Thanks.

[alienbobz]

I made mine...Hacksaw and a 3/8 16 thread Carriage bolt...and 5/8 adapters with a slot on both ends and a Leatherman helps with the issue of getting stuck...I've considered Locktite too

I am guessing by Leatherman you mean one of these: http://www.leatherman.com/multi-tools

[F.O.Bean]

There's a shure very bar with the LD mod so you can EASILY run the 414s on one vertical bar instead of needing two separate clamps and I LOVE their sound in blumlein too

[alienbobz]

There's a shure very bar with the LD mod so you can EASILY run the 414s on one vertical bar instead of needing two separate clamps and I LOVE their sound in blumlein too

Where can I get that?

[F.O.Bean]

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=164415.0