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Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: Tye on February 10, 2007, 02:54:44 PM
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I am considering selling my bm2p+ jb3 combo and going to an all in one box
I have been reading every thread I can find on either unit. I am finding that
mostly everyone prefrers a pre in front .
This really confuses me. Why spend money on a mod just to use it as a bit bucket?
I would like to run my peluso cemc6's with hyrdas > all in one, anyone here run a similar rig without
a pre in front and get good results.
Any other options in this price range without stepping up to an mod R4 ?
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Don't run the cemc6s but run the MBHOs>ACM671 and actually do prefer it to the HOs>V2>stock 671. The sound is fuller and the bag is lighter. IMHO. I ran OSFT last week and was blown away. Plan on doing Larry Keel tonight
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I ran Pelusos > ACM P2 and liked it alot. Now that Doug offers a transparent P2 mod that would fit the Pelusos better than a warmer mod esp if you are coming from a bm2p+ like I was too. To my ears these mics sound better with a transparent backend...but that is to my ears.
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Don't run the cemc6s but run the MBHOs>ACM671 and actually do prefer it to the HOs>V2>stock 671. The sound is fuller and the bag is lighter. IMHO. I ran OSFT last week and was blown away. Plan on doing Larry Keel tonight
...i'll buy that V2 from you if you don't use it anymore. ;)
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I have been reading every thread I can find on either unit. I am finding that mostly everyone prefrers a pre in front .
This really confuses me. Why spend money on a mod just to use it as a bit bucket?
Running a preamp in front of the HD-P2 or 671 doesn't make it a bit-bucket. The signal still passes through the HD-P2 / 671 analog stage (modded) and these units still perform ADC. Since the signal still passes through the MODs, they should still help reduce self-noise, increase detail, and impart sonic characteristics to the signal (though probably less of the MODs sonic characteristics than when using higher gain on the HD-P2 / 671).
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I just picked up a ACM-P2 (soon to be delivered)... I had to sell the WMod+ to get it, but one day I hope to get it back so I can run it in front of the ACM.
Its all about options. With those 2 devices, I could run w/o the WMod+, with the WMod+ as a pre (analog out), or with the WMod+ as a full pre>ADC (SPDIF out). With the 3 options, I imagine I'll get slightly different results. Its should be fun to play with!!!
You're right, there's no "real" reason to get a ACM if you plan to use it as a SPDIF bit bucket, but with this hobby, are any of us really living in reality?!? Its all fancy toys!!! The more buttons and mods and tweeks, the better!!!
I gave the 671 vs P2 long thought. I like the Marantz a lot and thought of going that way first. But the display on the P2 won me over. The ACM-P2 is a "Warm" and there is now a "Trans" P2 (cheaper than the ACM), or at least that's how Doug explained it to me last week.
I went with the ACM since I liked the WMod+ with my TLs. But if you like the TMod you should go with the TCM-P2... Or the Busman-P2 in a few months??? I've heard he's working on P2 mods...
Terry
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Don't run the cemc6s but run the MBHOs>ACM671 and actually do prefer it to the HOs>V2>stock 671. The sound is fuller and the bag is lighter. IMHO. I ran OSFT last week and was blown away. Plan on doing Larry Keel tonight
...i'll buy that V2 from you if you don't use it anymore. ;)
Sorry still need the V2 for the 4 mic matrrixs we pull at a local club.
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I have been reading every thread I can find on either unit. I am finding that mostly everyone prefrers a pre in front .
This really confuses me. Why spend money on a mod just to use it as a bit bucket?
Running a preamp in front of the HD-P2 or 671 doesn't make it a bit-bucket. The signal still passes through the HD-P2 / 671 analog stage (modded) and these units still perform ADC. Since the signal still passes through the MODs, they should still help reduce self-noise, increase detail, and impart sonic characteristics to the signal (though probably less of the MODs sonic characteristics than when using higher gain on the HD-P2 / 671).
Thanks Brian I thought that adc was bypassed completley with a pre in front. That is nice to know.
Now the Bm2 mod R4 has come into the picture. Damn tax refund time.
Terry I know what you mean by the P2 display it is very nice and uncluttered. What draws me to the R$ is of course 4 channels and an on board HD and it's display is pretty spiffy as well.
Thanks for the info guys I will let you know which way I go