Topic: SD 722/744 (Compact Flash Question) >>

[todd e]

So for those of you who have the 722/744, has anyone used the Compact Flash card?  Last weekend I tried to use it, by letting a friend pop the 8gig card into his 744 at setbreak, mostly for comparison of sources, and it seemed to work.  The next day when I got the '2nd' card out and tried listening to it, there was nothing. 

Anyone use a card and a harddrive, as redundant back-up?  It seems like a real easy way to patch, or compare sources. 

Thoughts/Ideas?

[oleg]

you need to choose what media you are recording 2 or both in the menu
the pb if you choose both is from hard disk

[terrapinj]

i gave a guy some patches at wakarusa directly to his CF card while also writing to the HD. worked great, didn't notice much more power drainage but didn't test to see actual differences. great way to give someone an effortless patch. probably would be a good idea for backups as well. i've been thinking about grabbing some CF cards when there are killer deals to use instead of the HDD from time to time.

you were able to get one card to work but not another? perhaps a formatting issue?

i believe you can still transfer to that CF card using the 744

[todd e]

see that's the thing, it looks good but when i got home, nothing on the card.

it had been formatted in my hd-p2, and i assumed it wouldn't cause any problems for the 744. 

having not had too much experience with the menu on the SD boxes, can someone shed some light on how to navigate to that selection.
i'll try the manual too, but it would be nice to know how to do it, because that was the first question that i didn't know the answer to in a while!

[Craig T]

I've used 2, 4 & 6GB cards without issue.  Another option is to just copy the files to the CF card after the show.  There is a setting to "copy last 24 (or 48) hrs", so you don't have to go through and "tag" the files prior to copying.

[todd e]

I've used 2, 4 & 6GB cards without issue.  Another option is to just copy the files to the CF card after the show.  There is a setting to "copy last 24 (or 48) hrs", so you don't have to go through and "tag" the files prior to copying.

craig,

did you use the CF and the HD, at the same time?  i am 99% sure it can be written at the same time, but i am not sure

[ianstone]

dude, we missed you out in CO this weekend...

[kgreener]

I've used 2, 4 & 6GB cards without issue.  Another option is to just copy the files to the CF card after the show.  There is a setting to "copy last 24 (or 48) hrs", so you don't have to go through and "tag" the files prior to copying.

craig,

did you use the CF and the HD, at the same time?  i am 99% sure it can be written at the same time, but i am not sure

yes, this can be done.  i write to both the CF (4gb) and HD all the time.  it's a nice feeling knowing you have a backup of sorts should one or the other go down.  haven't tested how much drain it puts on the battery but my guess is it's negligible.

[F.O.Bean]

after my moedown first night was trashed, i will be getting an 8GB card for sure, great way to RAID 1 while live   cant wait til 2.0 comes out, then you can RAID 1 w/ cheap external HD's

[todd e]

I've used 2, 4 & 6GB cards without issue.  Another option is to just copy the files to the CF card after the show.  There is a setting to "copy last 24 (or 48) hrs", so you don't have to go through and "tag" the files prior to copying.

craig,

did you use the CF and the HD, at the same time?  i am 99% sure it can be written at the same time, but i am not sure

yes, this can be done.  i write to both the CF (4gb) and HD all the time.  it's a nice feeling knowing you have a backup of sorts should one or the other go down.  haven't tested how much drain it puts on the battery but my guess is it's negligible.

sweet, thanks. 
i've been reading through sound device site and am not getting too far.

what settings do i need to know about?  kgreener, is that different than the default setting?  i'm assuming so

[thegreatgumbino]

sweet, thanks. 
i've been reading through sound device site and am not getting too far.

what settings do i need to know about?  kgreener, is that different than the default setting?  i'm assuming so

Settings in regards to using the CF & HD, or in general?

[todd e]

sweet, thanks. 
i've been reading through sound device site and am not getting too far.

what settings do i need to know about?  kgreener, is that different than the default setting?  i'm assuming so

Settings in regards to using the CF & HD, or in general?

the 744 settings (or 722)

so i could explain the a SD user how to setup the card and HD simultaneously.

[Craig T]

yes, there is a setting to record to HDD and CF at the same time.  I've done it several times and it works great.

I've used 2, 4 & 6GB cards without issue.  Another option is to just copy the files to the CF card after the show.  There is a setting to "copy last 24 (or 48) hrs", so you don't have to go through and "tag" the files prior to copying.

craig,

did you use the CF and the HD, at the same time?  i am 99% sure it can be written at the same time, but i am not sure

[terrapinj]

on the 722 its menu item 5 -

Rec: Media Select

options are:
IN HDD Only
CF Only
IN HDD and CF

[todd e]

on the 722 its menu item 5 -

Rec: Media Select

options are:
IN HDD Only
CF Only
IN HDD and CF

AWESOME, thanks!

+T

[terrapinj]

on the 722 its menu item 5 -

Rec: Media Select

options are:
IN HDD Only
CF Only
IN HDD and CF

AWESOME, thanks!

+T

did you not select to write to the CF card before? that would explain why the card was blank.

if you check the manual there is a way to easily copy over either selected files, files from past 24 hours, or files from last 48hours to CF Card

[todd e]

on the 722 its menu item 5 -

Rec: Media Select

options are:
IN HDD Only
CF Only
IN HDD and CF

AWESOME, thanks!

+T

did you not select to write to the CF card before? that would explain why the card was blank.

if you check the manual there is a way to easily copy over either selected files, files from past 24 hours, or files from last 48hours to CF Card

nope, i just threw the card in and it appeared to work.  none of us had any experience in using the CF card, so lesson learned!
upon checking at home, it was blank.

[ianstone]

on the 722 its menu item 5 -

Rec: Media Select

options are:
IN HDD Only
CF Only
IN HDD and CF

AWESOME, thanks!

+T

i wonder if you keep it on  IN HDD and CF
if you have no card in, will it affect anything? could you hypothetically just keep it on this setting and if someone shows up with a card you can just pop it in?
or does there need to be a card present when you switch to this setting?
ian

[terrapinj]

does the hd keep heating things up if you record to flash only?

thats a really good question. i have been thinking about grabbing a CF card for lowpro/stealth gigs when the 722 is packed in my bag tight. that fucker gets HOT and I would think that using the CF card and not writing to the HDD would reduce the heat quite a bit but don't know for sure

[F.O.Bean]

does the hd keep heating things up if you record to flash only?

thats a really good question. i have been thinking about grabbing a CF card for lowpro/stealth gigs when the 722 is packed in my bag tight. that fucker gets HOT and I would think that using the CF card and not writing to the HDD would reduce the heat quite a bit but don't know for sure

and also reduce battery power, im gonna grab an 8GB card soon actually

[kgreener]

does the hd keep heating things up if you record to flash only?

found some discussion on this here:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=47541.0
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=61938.0

[terrapinj]

i couldn't find specifications in the 722 Manual, does anyone know if the 722 will work with Type I CF cards? all i could find was that they recommended at least 24x speed

[F.O.Bean]

prolly both I and II

[kgreener]

I'm still working on figuring out that search feature thing, and the mark-as-read dealie, thanks!
+ to ya

no worries Moke, +t back atcha!

[CQBert]

I just ordered a 702... CF is so cheap now you can own more memory than the HD for approx the same as the HD Cost, keep things solid state and eliminate the HD and any possible heat related issues... 

To be fair, outside of a Cochella Festival shut down with a very early Firmware 1.34 or something like that - I have never had any thermal issues and have run in 100+ Degree heat at ACL twice. 

I really like the CF Media for simplicity and reliability, my HD-P2 was nice but I just did not like the machine, the R-1 / 9's seem to be pretty good choices... I just like CF and with prices falling so rapidly and 32 Gig cards coming in the (hopefully) near future it has become my choice....

My Two Cents..

CQBert

[Brian Skalinder]

CF is so cheap now you can own more memory than the HD for approx the same as the HD Cost

This new math fascinates me!  Lessee...I just recently paid $90 for a 320 GB HD.  So that's $0.28 / GB.  In order to achieve the same storage / $, CF would have to be $1.12 per 4 GB card.  Maybe I'm not clued into the latest CF prices (been a while since I bought one new), but AFAIK I don't think we're anywhere close to that pricing for CF cards.  Not saying we won't get there, necessarily, just that it's a good ways off.

[CQBert]

Sorry...  wrong math issue...

SD charges approx $500 more for a 30/40 gig drive 722 version...  8Gig cards are approx $100...  that is where I was headed..  Nothing to do with raw Hard Drive Prices.

CQBert

[Brian Skalinder]

Sorry...  wrong math issue...

SD charges approx $500 more for a 30/40 gig drive 722 version...  8Gig cards are approx $100...  that is where I was headed..  Nothing to do with raw Hard Drive Prices.

Ahhhhh...I get it, now.  Thanks CQ.

[ianstone]

Sorry...  wrong math issue...

SD charges approx $500 more for a 30/40 gig drive 722 version...  8Gig cards are approx $100...  that is where I was headed..  Nothing to do with raw Hard Drive Prices.

CQBert

where can i get an 8 gig card for $100?

Best deals i've seen lately have been around 130 for a 4gig

[CQBert]

Just a quick check....  New Egg has 4 different 8 gig cards between $127 and $140... 

Did not do anything special in the search..

I also remember a couple of posts in the Retail Section recently..

CQBert

[todd e]

ian - i just grabbed the PQI card 8 gig for 137 off newegg.

it works well in the hd-p2, but has not worked as well in the MT 24/96