Topic: Edirol R-09 Release Information -ptII

[gmm6797]

$3 drop since i ordered mine on Thursday LOL

[pjdavep]

So to sum it up.... As of now:
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4. Oh yea... what is battery life like? Is it just best to swap them out or is there a good battery pack available?
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No experience with flash makes, but suggest using OXY-alkaline now made by Sony and Panasonic as most likely to give 5+ hours recording time.  I have been using these for a few weeks with the R-09 and get at least 5 hours.
<SNIP>

Why would you use disposables, when NiMH batteries give fantastic run times?   Don't forget to change the 'battery type' in the R-09's system menu from "Alkaline" to "NiMH".
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=68518.msg938717#msg938717

Later,
   pjdavep

[Gutbucket]

Hey all... After selling my MT and picking up a few iRivers then deciding I really wanted 24bit since sometimes I would be mixing in SBD feeds with my R-4 (and deciding to give up on digi in for now) I went ahead and picked up a R-9.  It will be here tomorrow.  I've been going through this thread and just wanted to verify that so far it seems the Transend 4gig card has been working the best for most people.  It also sounds like that will need to be formatted on the computer.  Can somone recommend a good (hopefully cheep) reader?  After reading several reviews of readers out there it seems like some have issues reading different size cards.

So to sum it up.... As of now:
1. Transcend 4gig SD card seems the most compatible?
2. Best to format on the PC (FAT32)? Or can the R-9 format reliably?
3. Any recommended reader?
4. Oh yea... what is battery life like? Is it just best to swap them out or is there a good battery pack available?

I hate to beg, but a fast response would be nice as I'd like to order so I can use for a unique situation this weekend that I will probably not see again soon..

Thanks for the input,
Dana

1. Trancend seems to be the most tested and tried 4GB card here and works well, just can't be formatted by the R-09 itself.
2. Format to FAT32 (default) using a PC which can be done with the card in the Recorder connected via USB.
3. USB connection from recorder to the computer works fine for transfering data & formatting card.
4. Plenty of recording time with 2500mAh NIMH, exceeding the 4hr. recording time of the 4GB card at full rez.  estm. 6+hrs? not sure..
   (I'm using 2 pairs of Energizers and rotate 'em.. haven't run out of juice yet)

Personally a big fan of the 4GB card option.  it's really nice not to have to swap cards (or even have to think about it).  I just leave the card in the recorder all the time, dumping files to the computer and formating ocassionally using USB.  The only time I take the card out is to show it to people.

[Gutbucket]

I just leave the card in the recorder all the time, dumping files to the computer and formating ocassionally using USB.  The only time I take the card out is to show it to people.

Prices are dropping steadily for large SD memory.  I'll probably pick up another card before too long so I can run most of the day on two cards and 4AA's, then dump data and recharge overnight for festival stuff.  3 cards and 6AA's (change batt's with cards) would get you an easy 12 hrs in the field.  (obvious I know, but it's still cool)

[Gutbucket]

^^^^^^
  Yep.

[china_rider]

Transcend ordered.... T+ all around.

[hyperplane]

4. Oh yea... what is battery life like? Is it just best to swap them out or is there a good battery pack available?

FWIW, I consistently get over 7 hours of (WAV file) recording using one pair of Energizer 2200 mah 15-minute rechargeable AAs.

I haven't tested Energizer e² lithium AAs yet, but I would imagine you can get a full day's worth of recording done with a single pair of those. (Or get a 4-pack of the lithiums, to be on the "safe" side.)

As for an external power source, IIRC, Sound Professionals listed some device that could provide additional power to the R-09. But I doubt this is needed, since the R-09 already is very efficient in power consumption.

[Rick]

As for an external power source, IIRC, Sound Professionals listed some device that could provide additional power to the R-09. But I doubt this is needed, since the R-09 already is very efficient in power consumption.

Why would anyone want to use external power? 4 rechargeable batteries should last at least 12-14 hours. It seems to me that caring around an extra set of AA would be much easier then caring around some external power pack. Sounds like overkill.

[udovdh]

Does anybody have a conversion table for the level settings 8 and below?
I.e.: how much attenuation at what setting?

[twoheadedboy]

FWIW new rebate ($30) on the 4GB Transcend card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820163159&ATT=20-163-159&CMP=OTC-Froogle

Brings it to $57 after rebate, not bad.

[china_rider]

I ended up getting my Transcend 4gig at www.zipzoomfly.com.  A few days ago it was $72 shipped no rebates.  One good thing about this site is everything is almost always free shipping but if you want fedex 2 day it is only $1.99 more. I just went back to check the price while I was posting and they now have it for $112.  I think I got pretty damn lucky.  Hopefully it should be here tomorrow so I can use it for a Delta Nove SBD feed on Friday.

[china_rider]

Ok... hopefully this is not a dumb question.  With past recorders I've used my DSM6SMs into a PA-3SX preamp into the recorder.  Then I always use the pre to control the gain and just use the recorder to record without upping the gain.  However, with the R9 if I set gain at 0 it acts like the signal is muted.  I'm guessing I just need to set the R9 at 1 and all will be OK.  Anyone know the DB added for each step on the gain control?  I could be wrong but it does not seem to be 1:1.

The only 2 complaints so far are the battery door and the bright red recording light around the record button.  I may need to take a sharpie to it before I have to stealth for the first time.  Other than that this seems like a great unit.

[china_rider]

Just what I needed to know T+.  Going to actually bring the manual to work tomorrow to read over lunch.

Delta Nove is here Fri and Sat... I think I am going to use my open setup for the real recording but then use the R9 to get some practice in before it counts.  I just need to decide how dorky I want to look with my home made HRTF baffle that consists of a Styrofoam head in pantyhose and stuffed with cotton mounted to a stand. 

[udovdh]

you need to be at level 8

1->7 = attenuation
8->30 = gain

Using info from sonicstudios and from hyperplane I found:

level   dB   abs db   abs db   dbu   Vrms   Vpp
0   0   mute   mute   mute   0   0
1   -30,15   -27,88   0   16   4,887   13,824
2   -29,18   -26,91   0,97   15   4,356   12,320
3   -28,19   -25,92   1,96   14   3,882   10,980
4   -27,27   -25   2,88   13   3,460   9,786
5   -26,29   -24,02   3,86   12   3,084   8,722
6   -25,37   -23,1   4,78   11   2,748   7,774
7   -24,47   -22,2   5,68   10   2,449   6,928
8   -23,49   -21,22   6,66   9   2,183   6,175
9   -22,52   -20,25   7,63   8   1,946   5,503
10   -21,64   -19,37   8,51   7   1,734   4,905
11   -20,67   -18,4   9,48   6   1,546   4,371
12   -19,77   -17,5   10,38   5   1,377   3,896
13   -18,9   -16,63   11,25   4   1,228   3,472
14   -17,92   -15,65   12,23   3   1,094   3,095
15   -16,9   -14,63   13,25   2   0,975   2,758
16   -15,91   -13,64   14,24   1   0,869   2,458
17   -14,87   -12,6   15,28   0   0,775   2,191
18   -13,85   -11,58   16,3   -1   0,690   1,953
19   -12,8   -10,53   17,35   -2   0,615   1,740
20   -11,82   -9,55   18,33   -3   0,548   1,551
21   -10,8   -8,53   19,35   -4   0,489   1,382
22   -9,81   -7,54   20,34   -5   0,436   1,232
23   -8,77   -6,5   21,38   -6   0,388   1,098
24   -7,76   -5,49   22,39   -7   0,346   0,979
25   -6,69   -4,42   23,46   -8   0,308   0,872
26   -5,72   -3,45   24,43   -9   0,275   0,777
27   -4,69   -2,42   25,46   -10   0,245   0,693
28   -3,71   -1,44   26,44   -11   0,218   0,617
29   -2,78   -0,51   27,37   -12   0,195   0,550
30   -2,27   0   27,88   -13   0,173   0,490

level is R09 level
dB is what was measured by hyperplane. 8 and below is just less amplification?
both abs db's are translated versions of the dB collumn so that 0 dB is at 30 or at 0.
dbu for 1 and 30 is given at the sonicstudios website. the other dbu values are interpolated and fit well.
Vrms and Vpp are calculated.

Can anybody verify this info, please?

[pgoelz]

you need to be at level 8

1->7 = attenuation
8->30 = gain

Relative to what?  0 is no level.  30 is max.  Everything in between is gain.....

Paul

Paul