Topic: Tascam DR-60D - 4 Channel recorder

[2manyrocks]

I left mine charging all night.  Apparently, it takes a while to fully charge.  It's Ravpower model RP-PB07, 10400mah.  The tips that come with it are too small.  You need to use the  mini-B usb connector that came with the 60d. 

For mounting, I suppose I could put the battery in the bag that came with the battery and let it hang off a superclamp for the time being.

[Cheesecadet]

Would I be able to run a pair of DPA 4061s into the stereo channels 3/4 off the plug in power, or would they still require me to power them though my Tinybox and turn off the plug in power?  I'm assuming still through the Tinybox.

Have you all noticed the digital stepping of the gain pots and is it distracting or hardly noticeable? Is it something that can be done away with with a firmware upgrade?

[willndmb]

Would I be able to run a pair of DPA 4061s into the stereo channels 3/4 off the plug in power, or would they still require me to power them though my Tinybox and turn off the plug in power?  I'm assuming still through the Tinybox.

Have you all noticed the digital stepping of the gain pots and is it distracting or hardly noticeable? Is it something that can be done away with with a firmware upgrade?

1/2 has the option of line, 24v,48v
3/4 has line and pip

The digital stepping is only noticeable if there isn't a signal or a low db signal
I have never once noticed it in real life concert recording or even home recording test
Even with no signal, it isn't anywhere near as bad as some reviews make it out to be and I did a ton or research on it before buying because I was nervous

[Cheesecadet]

Would I be able to run a pair of DPA 4061s into the stereo channels 3/4 off the plug in power, or would they still require me to power them though my Tinybox and turn off the plug in power?  I'm assuming still through the Tinybox.

Have you all noticed the digital stepping of the gain pots and is it distracting or hardly noticeable? Is it something that can be done away with with a firmware upgrade?

1/2 has the option of line, 24v,48v
3/4 has line and pip

The digital stepping is only noticeable if there isn't a signal or a low db signal
I have never once noticed it in real life concert recording or even home recording test
Even with no signal, it isn't anywhere near as bad as some reviews make it out to be and I did a ton or research on it before buying because I was nervous

Thanks for all your answers.

Regarding plugging in the DPA4061s into channel 3/4 1/8"...does anyone have any idea how much plug in power the unit provides?  I'm trying to figure out if I will still need to utilize my Tinybox in front of those.

Ordered a unit yesterday, should be here Tuesday.

Thanks 

[StarkRavingCalm]

Can someone elaborate on the digital stepping?

[Cheesecadet]

Can someone elaborate on the digital stepping?

The unit does not have analog potentiometers so it utilizes digital pots.  Seems like a non issue for our purposes according to the above experience.  One upside of digital pots is you will never get the "scratchy" pots like happens to analog units. 

[2manyrocks]

Would I be able to run a pair of DPA 4061s into the stereo channels 3/4 off the plug in power, or would they still require me to power them though my Tinybox and turn off the plug in power?  I'm assuming still through the Tinybox.

I read elsewhere on TS that too much voltage will fry 4061s and would stick with what I knew works until I was certain there's no issue using plugin power from the 60d with 4061s.  I'm pushed for time to find the thread on this, but this is something I want to nail down since I also have a set of 4061s. 

[Ozpeter]

If you are recording test tones you might hear the stepping.  Fortunately, bands who perform test tones are fairly rare (and their fans are even rarer) so this is unlikely to be a problem in real terms.

[Popmarter]

Someone here willing to make some pictures of the unite for a size comparison to, let's say a Sony M10, Edirol R44?


EDIT: Found, halfway back here is some: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=161501.120

[2manyrocks]

Some size comparison photos posted at posts 122 and 124 (M10).  I don't think we've had a comparison photo to an R44 yet.

[Fried Chicken Boy]

Front view of the R-44, DR-60D and R-05:


Side view of the R-44, DR-60D and R-05:

[F.O.Bean]

Im really liking this sucka!!! It would be perfect for my vms and littlebox setups. I can run vms>XLR>60D on channels 1/2, which allows me to tweak the gain on BOTH channels, since the vms has a 20db gain setting and a 40db gain setting, and its for BOTH channels, so I have zero control over left/right channels separately. Major coolness factor to me lol!!! And I can run the littlebox>mini on channels 3/4, since the LB has variable gain and I can tweak the levels on the LB And then since the LB has [2] separate outputs[RCA and 1/8"], I can run one of my m10s as a backup, and barely take up any space That way all 4 channels are already synced up, and I would only have to track a set ONCE for both sources. Just down to 1 cue sheet per set would be amazing. It gets very redundant when I have to make a separate cue sheet in cdwave for both of my m10 sources And since at festies I record at 2 stages, I will just run my [2] m10s obviously. So I would be using this the other 9 months of the year whenever I run BOTH of my rigs. Just absolutely perfect for my needs!!! And for $200 its a no brainer.

I hate to be "that guy" that barges into the thread on the LAST page and asks all the questions that have been asked a million times already, but can someone PLEASE tell me how long the 60D will run/last on the 4xAA internal batteries running LINE-IN on all 4 channels I promise I will read this whole thread eventually, but I just want a quick answer to help me decide if I really want it or not And if I have this thing down, I would want to run in the 4 channel mode, right? That way all the tracks are their own mono file, right?

Thanks in advance fellas

Bean

[F.O.Bean]

Damn, this thing is TINY!!! I just looked up the specs at B+H, and its as small as my Droid Ultra Motorola smartphone! So badass. Now I'm really interested I just need a decent size bag, maybe a new Mountainsmith Tour TLS, that Jon Merin talked to me about yesterday. I need a vms02ib, kcy littlebox, 60d, an m10 for backup and both pairs of mics in one bag, and the MS Tour TLS might fit the bill perfectly Now I need yinz opinion on how good the ADC is Is it the same or better than the m10s ADC? Because if it is, then I'm all over it this winter Now I guess the only thing left to do is search for some Schoeps>preamp>60D tapes to listen to, if there are any!!!

[willndmb]

Bean
I never ran line in but mic in, no phantom, the manual says 4.5 hrs for two channel
I dumped one of my m10 for the dr-60d and haven't missed it but I haven't done any huge scientific test/listening either just so side by side

[F.O.Bean]

Bean
I never ran line in but mic in, no phantom, the manual says 4.5 hrs for two channel
I dumped one of my m10 for the dr-60d and haven't missed it but I haven't done any huge scientific test/listening either just so side by side

Well, I can't really get rid of an m10, since I do about 3-4 LONG festies every summer, and i would just rather run both of my m10s at two different stages. But I would definitely get a LOT of use out of this the other 9 months when I mainly record indoors and at ONE stage lol But the thought has crossed my mind Sometimes you have to make sacrifices to get what you want, like me selling a littlebox and KCY cable to get my vms02ib preamp It's just REALLY hard to beat the m10s battery life AND quality of its ADC, for a slightly bigger deck, that doesn't last anywhere in the same planet when it comes to recording runtimes BUT, since this sucker is ONLY $200[which is a drop in the bucket compared to a lot of our rigs expense-wise, so I really don't have to get rid of an m10 to get this thankfully! And I haven't had a SBD patch but MAYBE twice in the last 6+ years, so I would only be running both of my Schoeps rigs into it!

And willndmb, thank you kindly for the info I was looking for