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Gear / Technical Help => Recording Gear => Topic started by: danmorgan on April 25, 2003, 07:02:56 PM
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An addition to the 722/744, got this over at the Oade board.
http://www.oade.com/cgi-bin/miva?Forum/technology/index.mv
This is great to hear they are really looking for feedback on this design. :D
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I think a simple unit would be great. Basically all I really think I want is a big ass HD, firewire, and digital in's and out's, coax style with optical and aes being a bonus. Oh yeah, I want really good meters, at least up with the da-p1's meters, with a big blue light! Build it inside an ammo box, but make sure the material is lightweight, and make it 500 bucks, maybe six. Doesn't seem like this would be all that difficult considering the design is there. All they would need to do is to pull out all the bonus stuff and screw it back together. What do you guys think?
Daryan
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I think it will easily be over $1000. Probably $13-1400, if I had to guess...
My guess is the mic pre and a to d aren't the most expensive parts of that unit. Never know, tho.
Now if it was under $1000... I'd jump on it, much more convienient than my lappy.
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STEALTH.
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It just seems to me that a laptop is more viable as you can use it at home, work, play, and of course, in the field. We shall see...
Daryan
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The problem I have with laptop is the fact that it is unstable, bulky, and I have to carry a 9lb. SLA to power mine.
A sturdy, relatively smaller (stealthable) HD recorder would be much better.
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BRING IT ON.... ;D
bean
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Danmorgan: why do you have to have an external power source? My dell will run 3.5-4 hours on 1 batt and 8+ on 2...
But I agree with the rest of your assessment. They're just not made for field recording, I cringe every time some walks by balancing a handful of beers :)
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nate,
howz all goin out your way??? i am gonna do the wu show if at all possible cause i'm doin moe 5-7,8-03 in millvale, pa...hope all is well and tell my drinkin buddy Curtis that we gots ta do that again sometime soon...peace out... ;D
bean
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Sweet, man! I'll see ya at the Wu show, then! I think Curtis is comin' up... Hopefully the bastard will drive this time, so I can get my groove on :D
Things are going great up here, I'm trying to find a nice DVD transport for my home hifi rig, and I spent the afternoon kickin' it at the local hifi shop 8)
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good to hear...yeah, make that lush drive(messin)...i will drink my face off w/ you if you're up to par... ;) and hopefully i can make it for sure but it looks like a go now...i taped a band called ESQUEVEZ in pittsburgh thursday nite and i GOTTA get you their tapes...they are really good.... 8)
bean
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Ducati: My laptop has only 1 internal battery which sits in the underside of the unit. This internal battery sucks and lasts less than a half an hour. I could put an additional battery in one of the media bays, but it also does not have really good run time...around 2 hrs. The current setup I have uses the 12v SLA and a 12-volt car adapter which acts like an outside AC source. It keeps the internal battery charged and can run for 6-8 hours. Again, the best reason for the HD recorder, IMO, is the stability of it against the laptop. And the part you mention about the possibilities of beer spillage...well, you know.
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you lappy tapers....god bless you... ;)
bean
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The sh|t we go through for 24 bit ;)
Good point about stability... A dedicated HD device would really be much easier to keep stable. I know I have to follow a pretty rigorous routine to keep my tapes dropout free, and it took me 6 shows to figure it out :D
Sweet, bean, I'll seeya in line for the Wu. Can't wait to hear that band, I saw your post on them in another thread. 8)
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The sh|t we go through for 24 bit ;)
No kidding!
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STEALTH STEALTH STEALTH! Honestly, I don't know if I trust Core Sound.
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"I don't know if I trust Core Sound. "
Exactly Armen ;)
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I wouldn't buy a piece of gear from Len if he was the only guy that sold 'em. ::)
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:-X
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:P
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;)
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;D
bean
p.s.- go team elite!!!!!!!
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Make this the size of a D8 and I'm in. I'm so in. Fuck MD and screw DAT.
( :D :D)
A
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Make this the size of a D8 and I'm in. I'm so in. Fuck MD and screw DAT.
( :D :D)
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armen,
i TOTALLY agree w/ you 100%....phuck removable media costs...i LOVE having an actual tape, but for the money i've spent on blanks, i could've bought a new pre/ad combo....oh well, times change... ;)
bean
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Bean, just run a NJB3, no media costs at all
Or buy a lappy ;)
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nate,
i was thinking of it but that means i'll have to lug sumpthing else w/ me..... :-\
bean
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Make this the size of a D8 and I'm in. I'm so in. Fuck MD and screw DAT.
( :D :D)
A
just a guess, but i just gotta imagine this will be manufactured in the same case/ shell as the other recorders they are working on. (USBPre size). only stands to reason for replication of manufacturing processes/ parts already tooled/ extrusions designed/ etc.
however, they might be able to re-tool the front face/ display and get this to work in the MP-2 case. this would also most likely preclude the loss of the removable media, but i don't think anyone here is concerned with that option anyway. all conjecture, but i'd bet on either the MP-2 or USBPre extrusion to be a lock.
.02 (clink/ clink) ::)
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here it is link
http://www.sounddevices.com/products/7.htm
i want one
jr
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Righto, Scott. If they made the stripped-down, recorder-only version (what I'd be interested in) the size of the MP-2... wowies. :D
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from the info they released at NAB it looks like these HD recorders will be about the exact same dimesions as their 302 compact production mixer.
scott is right though......all these companies love to reuse older designs. unfortunatelt, that is exactly what apogee did with the mini me....and well you can see how sometimes you need a design change. ;)
anyway, these HD recorders look very promising. i have e-mailed some questions to Sound Devices. once i hear back i will post what they say.
dave
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sorry, i almost forgot the dimensions of the 302 production mixer....
dimensions:
47 mm x 214 mm x 114 mm (H x W x D)
1.8” x 8.4” x 4.5”
dave
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Nice info. Dave!
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nice info, Dave!
my speculation was about the HD recorder ONLY model they are thinking of doing later on this year. there was alot of talk on the Oade Board about it last week, and is what started this thread. (at least that's what i thought they were meaning). hehe... :P
~S
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Scott,
Yes, I meant the HD device only.
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right on, Dan, that's what i thought. ;)
+T for the info.
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No problem at all. I see this product as the "one" I'm looking for. I really trust something from SD much more than the Core Sound product I've heard about.
What I found especially interesting on the thread that was running on the Oade forum was that the designers were looking for feedback from tapers. There were tons of ideas for specs and such. Hopefully it turns out to be a winner.
Can't wait for this
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haha....thanks guys!! ;) i didn't even read the entire subject of the thread....just the Sound Devices HD Recorder part.
i e-mailed Sound Devices asking them for some info about size, if it was going to use the same Lundahl transformers for the gain stage, and what chip they would be using for the A/D conversion.
here is the response i got from jon tatooles at Sound Devices..."Due to the very competitive nature of this market and new-to-the-market parts used in these products, we cannot disclose the nature of the preamplifiers and A/D stage. When we near release, this information as well as all final specs will go public. Thank you for your interest."
not exactly what i was looking for!! ::) however, i can't say i blame them since this is a brand new technology. anyway, hopefully we will know more soon. i'm still VERY excited at the prospect of this.....
dave
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i second that emotion... 8)
bean
p.s.-dave, what is the countdown down to...
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23 days..... ;)
dave
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good to hear dave.... 8)
bean
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scott is right though......all these companies love to reuse older designs. unfortunatelt, that is exactly what apogee did with the mini me....and well you can see how sometimes you need a design change. ;)
don't be suprised if you wake up to a minime shoved up your ass this summer... ;)
Seriously though this looks like the box we have all been waiting for. I'm keeping my fingers crossed...
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Seriously though this looks like the box we have all been waiting for. I'm keeping my fingers crossed...
I'm hoping!
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MP2 size MP2 size MP2 size... ;)
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haha....very funny tim!!!! ;D
+T to you!!
dave
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sorry, it's study week and I'm getting antsy...
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good luck bro!!!!!! ;D
looking forward to partying this summer!!!! 8)
dave