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Title: 9v module battery life + rolloff
Post by: Adam. on December 30, 2006, 03:06:30 AM
I just retired my rig which has done me well over the last 50 odd gigs:

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5104/myspacegearoo0.jpg)

And bought a new one:

SP-CMC-2 + SP hat mount + 9V battery module which will plug in nicely to the top of the iRiver.

I'm intending to make my own module, since I think they're stupidly overpriced and in most cases, oversized. I'm using this wiring diagram:

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/337/indexat1.jpg)
(is there anything wrong with that?)

I don't want any roll-off, so do I just remove the capacitors all together or what?

Also since I don't know what current the mics will be drawing, what sort of battery life could I expect from a standard 9V battery? And how will I know when it's depleted, short of breaking out the tounge before every gig?

Cheers.
Title: Re: 9v module battery life + rolloff
Post by: Humbug on December 30, 2006, 03:32:57 AM

I don't want any roll-off, so do I just remove the capacitors all together or what?

I'm sure someone more technical than myself will chime in, however I have found the CMC2s not particularly bass-heavy, and never use bass-roll off anyway.

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Also since I don't know what current the mics will be drawing, what sort of battery life could I expect from a standard 9V battery?

I use a standard Sound Pro battery box and they recommend you change the battery after 500 hours use or one year. I've run it a fair bit longer than one year, and found that the recordings eventually distort which tells you when to change the battery..

Can't you wire it so that it breaks the circuit when the mics are withdrawn? Nothing worse then being in a venue with a dead battery and no way of obtaining one.

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And how will I know when it's depleted, short of breaking out the tounge before every gig?

Those Duracell PP9V packs often contain a separate battery tester strip (well in the UK they do!) If the indicator is not fully (or nearly fully) "lit" after 20 seconds, chuck the battery away.

Hope that helps, and good luck building the bb.

Cheers

Alex
Title: Re: 9v module battery life + rolloff
Post by: beefstew on December 30, 2006, 02:24:47 PM
here ya go man :D

second post down

http://forums.minidisc.org/index.php?showtopic=11254&hl
Title: Re: 9v module battery life + rolloff
Post by: Adam. on December 30, 2006, 07:16:59 PM
Thanks people! Much appreciated.

beefstew, I read through that thread and didn't really get a clear answer. So basically with this formula for working out which capacitor you use:

fc = 1 / (2 * Pi * R * C)

To make fc smaller (no rolloff I assume), you increase C, ie use a higher capacity capacitor?

Too easy!
Title: Re: 9v module battery life + rolloff
Post by: Church-Audio on December 30, 2006, 08:52:16 PM
Thanks people! Much appreciated.

beefstew, I read through that thread and didn't really get a clear answer. So basically with this formula for working out which capacitor you use:

fc = 1 / (2 * Pi * R * C)

To make fc smaller (no rolloff I assume), you increase C, ie use a higher capacity capacitor?

Too easy!

Adam use a 330pf cap for a roll off around 80hz or so. EDIT I ment to say 330nF not Pf  Make sure you get a nice Mylar one. I would also recommend you don't bother with the bass roll off on the mics you have because they do not have that much to begin with.


Good luck with your recordings T+ for making such a strange rig :)