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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #75 on: April 10, 2006, 06:53:08 AM »
While 2GB discs may not be physically possible perhaps they could develop an ATRAC lossless..or something...and the would expand disc capacity.  Even if it was only a jump up to 120-125 min that would be perfect for almost any show.

As others note: ATRAC lossless exists. But anyway, you can get many hours on one disk at the next-to-perfect setting and I'm not sure why you'd need better than that for taping a live show.

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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #76 on: April 10, 2006, 05:23:39 PM »
While 2GB discs may not be physically possible perhaps they could develop an ATRAC lossless..or something...and the would expand disc capacity.  Even if it was only a jump up to 120-125 min that would be perfect for almost any show.

As others note: ATRAC lossless exists. But anyway, you can get many hours on one disk at the next-to-perfect setting and I'm not sure why you'd need better than that for taping a live show.

I continue to cover MD issues at my site, and have an update on this new model here.

I know it exists..I ment developed for a recording setting not just a setting in Sonic Stage. 

The reason I want to use PCM rather then HI-SP is because I typically am right up front in front of a speaker and the bass is booming.  The PCM will handle in the most insane bass levels where the HI-SP doesn't.  Ive tested this at a show where I did half a set in PCM and the other half in HI-SP and the PCM has much better low end.

I'm referring to bass at an arena show such as NIN during "Burn" "The Line Beings To Blur" "Reptile" songs which are pretty bass heavy.
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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #77 on: April 10, 2006, 07:05:00 PM »
The reason I want to use PCM rather then HI-SP is because I typically am right up front in front of a speaker and the bass is booming.  The PCM will handle in the most insane bass levels where the HI-SP doesn't.  Ive tested this at a show where I did half a set in PCM and the other half in HI-SP and the PCM has much better low end.

Interesting. I would have definitely assumed that the pre-amp or even mic would bottom-out before the encoding. Perhaps though you are using an external pre?

In any case, I cannot argue with your experience and it is indeed informative to know this can be a problem.
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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #78 on: April 10, 2006, 10:00:16 PM »
The reason I want to use PCM rather then HI-SP is because I typically am right up front in front of a speaker and the bass is booming.  The PCM will handle in the most insane bass levels where the HI-SP doesn't.  Ive tested this at a show where I did half a set in PCM and the other half in HI-SP and the PCM has much better low end.

Interesting. I would have definitely assumed that the pre-amp or even mic would bottom-out before the encoding. Perhaps though you are using an external pre?

In any case, I cannot argue with your experience and it is indeed informative to know this can be a problem.

Im running DPA4061s > MMA6000 > MD.  Even when I was using my CSBs I would notice the difference in the low end.  For most shows I have no problems running in HI-SP.  Its great for festivals and other all day events to get almost 9 hours on a single 1GB disc.  Typically Ill tape in HISP for the openers and PCM for the headliner unless its someone I really like opening or Im out of 1GB discs and will stand a little farther back and run in HISP.

Of course it could just be in my head in which case just ignore me :)
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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #79 on: May 20, 2006, 02:17:28 PM »
Any idea about when does this unit come out?
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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #80 on: May 20, 2006, 02:49:27 PM »
its allready out

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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #81 on: May 20, 2006, 04:26:57 PM »
its allready out
Well, sorry, I am confused here...
I have first been told that SONY-MZ-RH1 was expected to be available on the 3rd week of may (this week). But looking at SP site they are still in pre-order mode, expecting to send them in june and someone even told me that they won't be there before july ??? Available? Or not?
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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #82 on: May 20, 2006, 04:30:15 PM »
its allready out
Well, sorry, I am confused here...
I have first been told that SONY-MZ-RH1 was expected to be available on the 3rd week of may (this week). But looking at SP site they are still in pre-order mode, expecting to send them in june and someone even told me that they won't be there before july ??? Available? Or not?

These guys would probably know: http://minidisco.com/ 1-877-MD-ROBOT, either that or call SP.
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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #83 on: May 21, 2006, 04:35:02 AM »
While 2GB discs may not be physically possible perhaps they could develop an ATRAC lossless..or something...and the would expand disc capacity.  Even if it was only a jump up to 120-125 min that would be perfect for almost any show.

As others note: ATRAC lossless exists. But anyway, you can get many hours on one disk at the next-to-perfect setting and I'm not sure why you'd need better than that for taping a live show.

I continue to cover MD issues at my site, and have an update on this new model here.

I know it exists..I ment developed for a recording setting not just a setting in Sonic Stage. 

The reason I want to use PCM rather then HI-SP is because I typically am right up front in front of a speaker and the bass is booming.  The PCM will handle in the most insane bass levels where the HI-SP doesn't.  Ive tested this at a show where I did half a set in PCM and the other half in HI-SP and the PCM has much better low end.

I'm referring to bass at an arena show such as NIN during "Burn" "The Line Beings To Blur" "Reptile" songs which are pretty bass heavy.

Wouldnt a pair of higher quality mics solve this problem?  maybe some cardiods?

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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #84 on: May 24, 2006, 02:13:03 PM »
While 2GB discs may not be physically possible perhaps they could develop an ATRAC lossless..or something...and the would expand disc capacity.  Even if it was only a jump up to 120-125 min that would be perfect for almost any show.

As others note: ATRAC lossless exists. But anyway, you can get many hours on one disk at the next-to-perfect setting and I'm not sure why you'd need better than that for taping a live show.

I continue to cover MD issues at my site, and have an update on this new model here.

I know it exists..I ment developed for a recording setting not just a setting in Sonic Stage. 

The reason I want to use PCM rather then HI-SP is because I typically am right up front in front of a speaker and the bass is booming.  The PCM will handle in the most insane bass levels where the HI-SP doesn't.  Ive tested this at a show where I did half a set in PCM and the other half in HI-SP and the PCM has much better low end.

I'm referring to bass at an arena show such as NIN during "Burn" "The Line Beings To Blur" "Reptile" songs which are pretty bass heavy.

Wouldnt a pair of higher quality mics solve this problem?  maybe some cardiods?

Ive got DPA4061s w/ the MMA6000 I would think those are good enough for just about anything.  I could pick up something in the cardiods flavor but I like the way the 4061s sound and spent so much money on something that I dont use a whole lot that I cant really justify spending a few hundred more another another type of mic.
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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #85 on: May 24, 2006, 06:33:59 PM »
Wouldnt a pair of higher quality mics Schoeps solve this problem?  maybe some cardiods with an NBox?

I corrected for what you meant to say ;)
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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #86 on: May 24, 2006, 07:25:31 PM »
Wouldnt a pair of higher quality mics Schoeps solve this problem?  maybe some cardiods with an NBox?

I corrected for what you meant to say ;)

hahahahaahhaahaha...funny shizzle.

I think youz gotz itz right

I actually was thinking of the Church Audio mics for him.  They are the smart, inexpensive, cardiod solution 

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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #87 on: May 25, 2006, 11:58:16 AM »
Wouldnt a pair of higher quality mics Schoeps solve this problem?  maybe some cardiods with an NBox?

I corrected for what you meant to say ;)

hahahahaahhaahaha...funny shizzle.

I think youz gotz itz right

I actually was thinking of the Church Audio mics for him.  They are the smart, inexpensive, cardiod solution 

rspenser:  I want to send you a recent recording I have done.  pm me if interested please.

I also should mention that I really like being right up front for any show especially an arena show.  I like the thump of the kick drum making my chest rumble.

So this new MD is out in Japan but minidisco doesnt have it listed.  I dont think its worth spending the extra $100+ importing it so has anyone seen another site that has it for sale?
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Re: new Sony MD deck in the works...very taper friendly
« Reply #88 on: June 01, 2006, 12:51:54 AM »
hey all, im brand spakin new to taping...i really want to get into taping and would like to know if this model, Sony Net MD Walkman MZ-N707 type R MDLP, would be ok for taping shows?  any help would be great

 

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