Topic: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison

[spott]

Not sure if this has been posted.... interesting, very interesting

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http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=668

Hillbilly IDOL
2003-11-20
Cleveland, OH - Barking Spider Tavern

Taper: Brian Skalinder
Location: Center, 15' back, 7' up, clamped to and dropped down from cieling beam
Config: DIN (20cm, 90º)
Sources: Schoeps MK4/KC5/CMC6 Denecke PS-2 > Lunatec V3 (16-bit/44.1k) > Sony D100
> W-Mod UA-5 (16-bit/44.1k) > Nomad JukeBox 3
Conversion: Sony D7 > Waveterminal 2496 > Cool Edit 2000 > CD-Wave (DAT only)

SOURCE A

01. Better Off Believing
02. Blue And Lonesome
03. Blue Showing Through
04. I Don't Think About You Anymore

SOURCE B

05. Better Off Believing
06. Blue And Lonesome
07. Blue Showing Through
08. I Don't Think About You Anymore

NOTES:

- Hosa XLR splitters after PS-2
- Canare / Neutrik interconnects between mics and PS-2, splitter and V3/UA-5
- Tracked with CD-Wave
- Fades with Cool Edit 2000
- V3 at ~48dB gain
- UA-5 at ~4:00 gain

I'll be happy to reveal which source is which after receiving feedback from listeners.

The Barking Spider is a small bar with a bit of an awkward layout for bands. The left stack and all the monitors are up against the same wall. Drums are unamplified. Right stack is on an angle facing in towards the rest of the room. Since it's such a small place, there isn't a need for massive reinforcement from the PA, so the broad horizontal spread of the monitors and far-right drum placement makes for some serious instrument placement within the recording space. Looks something like this (only looks correct if viewed as a mono-space font):

Banjo
Mando
Acoustic Guitar Fiddle Accordion
PA Pedal Steel Acoustic Guitar Upright Bass Acoustic Guitar Piano

Drums
\P
\A

ME

[Brian Skalinder]

Yup, in the Kickdown and Pre/ADC sections, and over at Oade.  Figured posting here was overkill, but...what the heck!  Thanks, Spott...can't hurt.    I'm really looking forward to people's feedback on this blind source comparison.

[Tim]

I'm downloading right now and warming up the B&W's!

[BCostigan]

Like I posted in the kick down section......I'm on this too!!   Can't wait to do some critical listening!  

[Brian]

I'm all over this one as well. Can't wait to hear it! although i'm thinking the most people will be able to detect that shempz>v3 sound we all know. what does everybody else think?

[BCostigan]

I'm hoping that I guess the ua-5 is the V3!    I imagine we'll be able to tell but we'll soon know for sure.  

[Brian]

I'm hoping that I guess the ua-5 is the V3!  

hehe. mee to! my money is on that w-mod will give the V3 a run for the money

[Sean Gallemore]

mike, we need a fluffing smiley

[zhianosatch]

too much phluph!

[F.O.Bean]

too much phluph!

that-a-boy...

and can anyone give me a quick snail mail possibly so i can get in on the phun???that would be much appreciated???

thanks,
bean

[RobC]

from my 1st listen, only on headphones,  I think the UA-5 gives the V3 a run for the money,  I can't tell for sure which is which,  this may change later today when I can listen through some speakers with some volume.

[Brian Skalinder]

Let's hear it, guys...28 downloads so far, and I only announced the torrent here and at Oade, and the Oade's board is slow these days.  How about it...more feedback and guesses as to which is which?  

[Tim]

I'm really, really interested to hear what everyone else thinks... come on ya'll I typed up a review, you can too!

[RobC]

I sent Brian what I thought via IM and my guess of which was which (and I was wrong)

[Brian]

here's my quick guess after one listen to spark some interest

Source A = V3
Source B = W-mod UA5

 

EDIT: I guess i should tell you my reason.  Pretty much based on the transparancy factor of the V3.  I think there is more room sound IMO in source A. Source B seems a little colored (warm) on the low hence my guess as the UA5.

just what it seems like to my ears after one listen...on not that great of a playback either FWIW.