All things being fair, Superluxs with with cards, hypers, and omnis cost almost as much at the TLs (which have figure 8s too) so IMO, one could definitely put them in the same price category! Honestly the luxes made some of my favorite tapes, but the bass always seemed to lack. Never had that big bottom end that you hear at the shows, but I only ran them with a crappy mixpad. Then went to the 391s (with a DMIC-20). LOVED the sound of these mics, so warm and such great low end. But, I didnt like only being able to afford the cards so I got the TLs. I like having the four patterns, thats great. The sound is more transparent, definitely not as warm as the 391s, but IMO its hard to find a situation where you cant make them sound pretty good. Definitely a good sounding versitile mic.