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Re:Best way to run cmc641s
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2003, 02:17:27 PM »
If you use the Neumann XY/ORTF mount for the KM140 actives - I forget the model number - it can be set up to run DIN, also.  I don't believe it was designed with it in mind, but it can be done.
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Re:Best way to run cmc641s
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2003, 02:31:31 PM »
If you use the Neumann XY/ORTF mount for the KM140 actives - I forget the model number - it can be set up to run DIN, also.  I don't believe it was designed with it in mind, but it can be done.


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Would you just mount the caps backwards on the XY mount, or can you adjust the angles on the ORTF mount?

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Re:Best way to run cmc641s
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2003, 03:03:23 PM »
Would you just mount the caps backwards on the XY mount, or can you adjust the angles on the ORTF mount?

Unfortunately, just mounting the caps backwards in the XY mount doesn't get you enough spacing.  So, I played around a bit and here's what I came up with:

[1]  place the 1st XY bar mic-clip DOWN in the bar
[2]  place the ORTF bar mic-clips UP in the bar
[3]  place the 2nd XY bar mic-clip UP in the bar

The 2nd XY bar won't fit in the grooves of the mount base, allowing it to rotate freely when you loosen the screw cap.  This is good.

To run ORTF - just like normal.

To run XY - just like normal, only the 2nd XY mount isn't within the grooves of the mount base.  No big deal, it's plenty easy to line it up.

To run DIN - extend the 1st XY bar as far as it will go within the mount.  Mount the cap facing opposite how you would for XY.  Mount the other cap in the 2nd XY bar and rotate the bar until you have a 90º angle.  If I recall, the caps are practically dead-on spaced at 20cm.  Nice thing is, you can open or close the angle as necessary depending on room issues.

The only real issue, which was never a problem for me:  the mount base rotates through around 180º.  The mics set up in DIN are in a different plane than the mount base rotates.  What this means is that it's not easy to angle the mics up or down using the mount base itself.  I always just rotated the A20S shockmount if I wanted to angle the mics up or down.

Does this makes sense?  It's kinda confusing thinking about it without having the mount in front of me.  Lemme know...
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Re:Best way to run cmc641s
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2003, 03:11:17 PM »
I think I'll be able to deduce what you've explained once I get the mics and mounts here.  Thanks so much for the help.

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Re:Best way to run cmc641s
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2003, 05:24:25 PM »
I run the 41's DIN with my tubes and love the results. I also have the 5 caps that I will run DIN or ORTF(in card setting) if up close. I use the UMS20 bar, so switching configurations is quite easy. Thanks......Jason
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Re:Best way to run cmc641s
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2003, 06:06:10 PM »
I think the best way to run schempz is to run them over to another gear bag, and trade em in for some gefells!  

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Re:Best way to run cmc641s
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2003, 06:17:23 PM »
Be nice Daryan :'( The week of Friday the 13th has not been good to this Jason. Thanks ;)
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Re:Best way to run cmc641s
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2003, 03:37:28 AM »
Be nice Daryan :'( The week of Friday the 13th has not been good to this Jason. Thanks ;)

hope youre alright, jason......totally forgot ya mentioned that......that sux, bro......at least yer alright, huh?????? :cheers:

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Re:Best way to run cmc641s
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2003, 01:00:01 PM »
I would ONLY run the 41's x/y if i was in a very poor sounding indoor room.  I would never run them x/y in a good sounding room or outdoors.....DIN rocks for those applications.

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Re:Best way to run cmc641s
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2003, 01:08:06 PM »
Welcome back Dave :)
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Re:Best way to run cmc641s
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2003, 03:44:04 PM »
good to see youre back, dave....... ;D

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