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Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« on: November 15, 2024, 02:55:16 PM »
I know, previous sales history isn't a guarantee of future sales prices, but is it likely there will be a better holiday sale price for Izotope RX11 Standard? Sale started yesterday, $239.40 instead of the regular $399, and the sale runs through December 5. Since that's after Black Friday and Cyber Monday, is this likely the best price of the season? I'm kinda cheap and can wait a few weeks if it's likely to be $199 or less before Christmas... but on the other hand, I don't want a $150+ savings slip by if $239 is likely the cheapest it's going to be.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2024, 03:54:16 PM »
MT also curious. About time I actually buy updated RX

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2024, 05:27:18 PM »
Where are you seeing it for $239?
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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2024, 06:23:37 PM »

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2024, 08:27:44 PM »
If it makes any difference to you, I have noticed no improvements over RX10 for anything I want to do.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2024, 10:02:02 PM »
If it makes any difference to you, I have noticed no improvements over RX10 for anything I want to do.

I think the algorithms improve a bit, hard to tell for sure, but other that that Rob is correct.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2024, 12:51:13 PM »

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2024, 02:34:42 PM »
I'm posting this here because I think enough folks are interested in Izotope pricing and doing it this way will keep the original thread showing.

Anyway, User Phil_Er_Up over at Lossless Legs posted this and I thought folks here would find it interesting:
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There are 2 audio software's that take a audio wav file and create 4 stems - Vocals, Bass, Percussion and Other instruments. There may be more software that does this though not aware of it at the moment.

One is called Izotope RX music rebalance.
https://www.izotope.com/en/products/rx/features/music-rebalance.html - You need to buy RX 11 standard which costs $399 now on sale for $239.40 at the above link.


Other is Ultimate Vocal removal tool. (UVRT)
https://ultimatevocalremover.com/ - UVRT is Free though really needs a high end graphic card with lots of ram to run fast.

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Background:

Have used both of these soft wares for about a year now. Was mainly using RX music rebalance
as a tool to make a matrix recording of both aud mics and SBD feed. Would split the SBD feed
into Vocals, Bass, Percussion and Other instruments stems. Load SBD feed then audio mics then
each stem into a audio editor. You have 6 tracks to work with now instead of two. If vocals are
low in aud mics then can use the vocal SBD stem and increase the vocals volume. Or if bass is
not there you can use bass SBD stem and increase the volume. The possibilities here are
almost endless. Almost have to change the way you think about processing your audio files.

The software seems to split better with a SBD feed then splitting the audio mic source. It does
not do a bad job on audio mic source though it is not as clean as the SBD feed stems.

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Does it work?

It sure does. Is it perfect - no. Though with vocals and bass seem to come out the best in RX MR
and drums can come out well though there is a bleed with some of the other instruments into the
drum stem. It the "Other instruments" stem where all the rest of the music is. If you have
guitar you want to increase there is no separate stem for that and you have to play with the
 "Other instruments" stem to get it to come out. Some people think there is a metallic sound
from the vocal stem in RX MR.

Ultimate Vocal removal tool (UVRT ) separates the vocals better then RX MR. There are model in
UVRT that will split the audio file into 4 stems. You can even separate vocals into lead vocals
and backup vocals. One disadvantage of UVRT  is it outputs 16 bit audio stems, not able to select
24 bit audio stem files. In RX MR you can get 24 bit audio stem files.

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What kind of PC do you need to run these software?
A high end PC.

To process one 60 minute sbd feed with RX MR on my old windows 7 daw took 1 hour 17 minutes.
3-4 years ago bought a laptop windows 11 I7 with lots of ram and fast CPU with built in graphic card
with 2 GB ram took the 60 minutes SBD feed to 18 minutes. Just bought a Win 11 I7 32 GB ram and very
fast CPU with good graphic card with 8 GB memory. Now to process 60 minutes SBD feed to 8 minutes for RM MR.

If record 2 70 minute sets have 4 audio files per source. So have to run each of the 4 SBD files
with RX MR to get stems for the whole show. Now to process all 4 SBD files with my new PC is
less then 30 minutes. Have to do this before I master the show. This causes more work and processing.

With UVRT you really need a graphics card with lots of ram or the software runs very slowly. Can
process in UVRT a 60 minute sbd feed with new pc in 8 minutes though it is only 16 bit audio files
as mentioned above.

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Where does this leave us with this new software?

Well as sidewider said yesterday in the shoutbox is if this software can really split the file into 4
stems then possibilities are endless. You could even take old SBD and add whatever is missing. This software
will get better over time too.

Does anyone else have experience with this or like to chime in about it?


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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2024, 02:45:42 PM »
MT also curious. About time I actually buy updated RX

Sweetwater has some upgrade versions on sale.
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/manufacturer/iZotope?_queryID=fd9b447736fa472739fea35254b5afe4&_index=production_products

B&H Photo has educational versions available
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?q=izotope&sts=ma
Actually looks like Sweetwater has the RX 11 Standard on sale for $200, which is the price that was my trigger point. Gonna mull it over for an hour, because that's the kind of buyer I am, and will probably pull the trigger this afternoon. Thanks for the tip!

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2024, 04:47:26 PM »
To be fair, I haven't tried the separation tool on RX11, so as said by AbbyTaper above, it could be better than the one in RX10.  But the best model on UVR5 is so much better than RX10 that I can't imagine RX11 would be better.

Spectralayers 11 also has a stem separation tool, and with more separate stems offered than either (multiple vocals, horns, etc), but I haven't tried it enough to know how well it works. Everything it offers seems very intriguing but I have found it pretty difficult to use and can't find much online that explains it well.  If anyone else is using this program and is finding it useful, it would be nice to have a thread discussing it.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2024, 08:32:35 PM »

Sweetwater has some upgrade versions on sale.
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/manufacturer/iZotope?_queryID=fd9b447736fa472739fea35254b5afe4&_index=production_products


Thanks — for $100 I'll take the plunge to upgrade from 9 to 11, even if the improvements are marginal.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2024, 06:27:07 AM »
Thanks to nassau73 for posting the above for sweetwater pricing and what I wrote at LL. Was not sure if I should bring it over here.

If there is enough interest we should start another thread about "A.I. Audio stem software" and not clog up this thread.

Do members think this would be a worthy effort?
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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2024, 03:20:33 PM »
Sure, I would follow that thread for sure.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2024, 03:32:17 PM »
I have tried twice to get threads going about UVR5 or izotope RX with no luck. But I really would love to discuss both of those and spectralayers 11 with others using the programs.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2024, 12:22:53 PM »
Izotope listed Black Friday Pricing on their website today 11/29/2024

They listed RX11 Standard - $79.60
Ozone 11 Advanced - $99.60

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2024, 10:11:25 PM »
Izotope listed Black Friday Pricing on their website today 11/29/2024

They listed RX11 Standard - $79.60
Ozone 11 Advanced - $99.60
I see the Ozone 11 Standard for $79.60, and the RX 11 Standard for $239.40. https://www.izotope.com/en/deals

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2024, 07:51:41 AM »


My experience now is that there is no stand-alone version past Ozone 9, it is a plug-in collection instead.?

Trying to arrange a refund this week with someone named "Nanni" from an order I made for Ozone 10 in 2023


Getting the slow walk from them sofar.....I tried to install the Ozone 10 they sent, and was shocked and horrified that it wouldn't launch

Got a lot of cororate mumblespeak back from "Andrew P" but finally, 'Yes, please do note that Ozone 10 and Ozone 11 unfortunately do not include a standalone app. These products only include audio FX plug-ins which can be hosted in a DAW.
 
I'll forward this case to the order support team and they will be able to assist with a refund early next week.'
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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2024, 08:25:39 AM »
It looks like something is on sale on the website now for $29.99. Will that price get me a lot of the features? I don't have any izotope at all at the moment. is that really really cheap or am I missing something?thanks,scott

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2024, 08:46:26 AM »
the cheap version of RX is still remarkably good, but not very flexible.  The main benefit that $30 will get you is upgrade pricing for RX/Ozone

I PERSONALLY use ozone way more than rx, inside of logic.
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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2024, 10:02:07 AM »
Okay sounds like I should just save my money ...so that 30 bucks won't do anything with getting rid of close clapping and yelling on recordings?

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2024, 10:19:31 AM »
others will have to answer that, I don't typically do that.
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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2024, 10:46:36 AM »
Okay we'll see if others chime in I usually don't do anything I just record and it is the way it is my ears ain't perfect for a Equalization after the fact...

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2024, 10:50:57 AM »
What I do is run Ozone to analyze the recording, then turn off everything it suggests except levels, then adjust the left and right channels to correct for the differences in my caps, and adjust levels so that applause noise is compressed but normal audio is left fully dynamic, then normalize to -0.5db
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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2024, 09:54:32 PM »
After 12+ years of using Audacity and other freeware for editing, I finally just pulled the trigger on iZotope RX 11 Standard Audio Repair Software from Sweetwater for $213 total with tax. (https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RX11Std--izotope-rx-11-standard-audio-repair-software) Electronic delivery, so it will get installed this week.

I asked one of their sales engineers if it was a plug in or standalone version. He response was "iZotope RX 11 standard Includes both the standalone version of RX as well as the VST plugins so feel confident you can use it both ways."
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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2024, 11:30:38 PM »
What is included in RX Advanced that isn't in Standard?

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2024, 05:33:17 AM »

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2024, 08:16:55 PM »
I have tried twice to get threads going about UVR5 or izotope RX with no luck. But I really would love to discuss both of those and spectralayers 11 with others using the programs.

I started a thread: https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=206399.0
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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2024, 10:49:02 PM »
What is included in RX Advanced that isn't in Standard?

https://www.izotope.com/en/products/rx/compare

Huh, only Ambiance Match and De-rustle. Definitely not worth the extra then, at least for most people.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2024, 03:39:51 AM »
What is included in RX Advanced that isn't in Standard?

https://www.izotope.com/en/products/rx/compare

Huh, only Ambiance Match and De-rustle. Definitely not worth the extra then, at least for most people.

That's the plug-ins.  Quite a few extra modules in the Advanced.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2024, 04:32:37 AM »
What is included in RX Advanced that isn't in Standard?

https://www.izotope.com/en/products/rx/compare

Huh, only Ambiance Match and De-rustle. Definitely not worth the extra then, at least for most people.

That's the plug-ins.  Quite a few extra modules in the Advanced.

Oh, I missed the lower part of the page you linked.

Still the only one I might ever use would be de-wind.
Have you (or anyone) ever used that?
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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2024, 08:34:25 AM »
After 12+ years of using Audacity and other freeware for editing, I finally just pulled the trigger on iZotope RX 11 Standard Audio Repair Software from Sweetwater for $213 total with tax. (https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RX11Std--izotope-rx-11-standard-audio-repair-software) Electronic delivery, so it will get installed this week.

I asked one of their sales engineers if it was a plug in or standalone version. He response was "iZotope RX 11 standard Includes both the standalone version of RX as well as the VST plugins so feel confident you can use it both ways."

That’s interesting as when I looked in their website they specifically said that with RX 10 they discontinued stand-alone software. This was a show stopper for me as I primarily use audacity these days and it does not have full RX support as a host. It does however, allow me to use “declick” which does help to reduce e the impact of close clapping. Note that it doesn’t lower the vo,use level but it reduces the high frequency content of those claps making them sound more distant. I find that, combined with some compression with the threshold set above the peak music volume, deals with 90% of my  lose clapping issues.

If you find it does have a stand alone app, and you have a good workflow, I would love to hear about it. In the meantime I got the elements for $40 CAD which will include upgrade offers so I’m happy.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2024, 12:07:57 PM »
There are definitely stand alone versions of RX10 and RX11.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2024, 12:12:34 PM »
They discontinued stand alone ozone, RX still includes the editor.
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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2024, 12:15:35 PM »
There are definitely stand alone versions of RX10 and RX11.

^^ This

Ozone 10 and 11 do not offer a standalone version.

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Ozone Standalone Application (Discontinued)

With the introduction of Ozone 10, we have made the difficult decision to discontinue the Ozone standalone application. This also means that there is no standalone version of Ozone 11.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2024, 01:14:00 PM »
Okay, I misunderstood that. I will look at potentially upgrading to the standalone version when I get the right offer.

I appreciate the clarification, that's a big miss on my part...

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2024, 04:04:50 PM »
If you find it does have a stand alone app, and you have a good workflow, I would love to hear about it. In the meantime I got the elements for $40 CAD which will include upgrade offers so I’m happy.

As others have said, RX 11 is indeed a standalone app. I don't have a workflow yet but am getting the hang of the program fairly quickly. I downloaded a trial version of Reaper earlier in the year, but never got comfortable using it and deleted it before the trial period was complete. I have found RX 11 easier to use than Reaper, but YMMV.

So far, I did the initial walk-thru that let's you mess around with a sample track using select tools and found it easy enough to use. I dropped in an old show I was planning to remaster one day and within a few minutes was able to find a handful of tweaks that made it sound way better than what I was able to do before. Granted, some of these tricks may have been buried in Audacity somewhere, but RX 11 was worth $200 based on my experience so far.
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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2024, 04:15:00 PM »
If you find it does have a stand alone app, and you have a good workflow, I would love to hear about it. In the meantime I got the elements for $40 CAD which will include upgrade offers so I’m happy.

As others have said, RX 11 is indeed a standalone app. I don't have a workflow yet but am getting the hang of the program fairly quickly. I downloaded a trial version of Reaper earlier in the year, but never got comfortable using it and deleted it before the trial period was complete. I have found RX 11 easier to use than Reaper, but YMMV.

So far, I did the initial walk-thru that let's you mess around with a sample track using select tools and found it easy enough to use. I dropped in an old show I was planning to remaster one day and within a few minutes was able to find a handful of tweaks that made it sound way better than what I was able to do before. Granted, some of these tricks may have been buried in Audacity somewhere, but RX 11 was worth $200 based on my experience so far.

I detect some confusion here. Audactity and Reaper are digital audio workstations, swiss army knives for audio editing/mastering. RX is deisgned to "fix, enhance, and polish your audio for music, post production".
I import polywaves into Audacity, make stereo pairs, trim, add track starts, and do some dynamics work there, mostly with normalize and sometimes their sof limiter. RX allows for stem separation, spectral repair, deverb, and all sorts of other fixing kinda things.

According to the website "RX 11 includes the RX standalone audio editor and 20 plugins." Many of the plugins don't work with Audacity, but a few do. After a few years of the workflow, it doesn't really bug me that music rebalance and a few other things happen outside of my DAW. Given how long rebalance takes, and that it's modal, I like having a separate app for it.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2024, 04:26:58 PM »
I detect some confusion here.

I believe you are correct. I've been trying to feel my way along with post production and get a bit confused with some of it. One thing I do know is that I was able to make some edits in RX 11 that made noticeable differences in files that I couldn't previously do using the programs I had available to me.
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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2024, 04:41:43 PM »
I believe you are correct. I've been trying to feel my way along with post production and get a bit confused with some of it. One thing I do know is that I was able to make some edits in RX 11 that made noticeable differences in files that I couldn't previously do using the programs I had available to me.

Congrats! That's awesome, and I totally had a similar challenge when starting with post production. The payoff is so great, it's worth the investment. I've cleaned up recordings from the 80s that I thought I'd never be able to listen to. The tech improves greatly with time, just getting better...
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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2024, 04:26:51 PM »

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Oh, I missed the lower part of the page you linked.

Still the only one I might ever use would be de-wind.
Have you (or anyone) ever used that?
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Yes.  It works, although I have noticed that if used too aggressively it tends to leave an "underwater" sound.

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Re: Holiday pricing on Izotope RX11?
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2024, 08:12:01 PM »


My experience now is that there is no stand-alone version past Ozone 9, it is a plug-in collection instead.?

Trying to arrange a refund this week with someone named "Nanni" from an order I made for Ozone 10 in 2023


Getting the slow walk from them sofar.....I tried to install the Ozone 10 they sent, and was shocked and horrified that it wouldn't launch

Got a lot of cororate mumblespeak back from "Andrew P" but finally, 'Yes, please do note that Ozone 10 and Ozone 11 unfortunately do not include a standalone app. These products only include audio FX plug-ins which can be hosted in a DAW.
 
I'll forward this case to the order support team and they will be able to assist with a refund early next week.'
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It's been a good week..

Hello,
 
We apologize for the trouble with this issue.
 
we have looked into this issue and we apologize but because the bundle was purchased over a yet ago we are unable to refund it if you would a  version of ozone that comes with the stand alone like ozone 9 I am happy to provide a serial number for that or a credit towards a different product but we are unable to process a refund for that.
 
We apologize for the misunderstanding.
 
Thanks!
Sincerely,

Lars


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Hello,
 
For the trouble and confusion I have made a one time exception and processed the refund please allow 3 - 5 business days for the funds to be returned.
 
Refund number 8189083920
 
We will not be able to do such refunds moving forward.
 
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