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WTF are these mics?
« on: January 24, 2019, 05:01:50 PM »
And why is Sebastian Bach singing into the sides? Wouldn't these be end-address shotguns?

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Re: WTF are these mics?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2019, 05:04:33 PM »
They probably just used the boom mics from the interview for an impromptu photo idea.
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Re: WTF are these mics?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2019, 05:29:28 PM »
Singing from the heart?
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Re: WTF are these mics?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2019, 06:53:51 PM »
> They probably just used the boom mics from the interview for an impromptu photo idea.

That kind of thing happens a lot. Many engineers are protective of their exact mike choices and positions, and won't allow the ones that they really use to be photographed; many photographs that supposedly show a live recording are in fact posed, and the microphone usage (or even the choice of microphone to be shown) is dictated by visual considerations. For example, the attached NY Times glamor photo shows someone singing into the back of a cardioid microphone that isn't connected to anything.

I collect photos like these, so thanks to the OP for showing us one that I hadn't seen before.

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Re: WTF are these mics?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2019, 09:20:23 PM »
^ Love that one.

My guess is the OP photo was taken as he walked into or out of a video interview in which he was seated with the mics just out of frame overhead.  Note the photo backdrop, that he's standing, posture, the height and angle of the microphones..
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Re: WTF are these mics?
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2019, 06:29:57 AM »
Even though it is clearly for him to sing / speak into when seated, I find it odd to have a pair of shotguns (AKGs?) aimed that close together.  I guess they wanted the interview to be in stereo, but I'm curious why they chose that pattern and placement.

There are some who record a soloist within an ensemble with two or three mics, so that they can be panned to "steer" the apparent placement in post when combined with the main stereo pair, or to create depth / width as a separate array unto itself, as opposed to the traditional mono spot mic for a soloist.

Here's an example with a lovely performance of Handel.  This particular setup uses one of the most expensive implementations I've seen of this technique.

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Re: WTF are these mics?
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2019, 06:57:26 AM »
That's what happens when the DOP calls all the shots, including mic placement. LOL

I can't imagine any benefit to having two gun mics that closely paired, but someone thought it was a good idea, even if it was only for optics.

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Re: WTF are these mics?
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2019, 09:33:19 AM »
Two mics for redundancy is my guess, not uncommon on a podium.  Speculating that the production crew set up to do multiple interviews with multiple folks and wanted to assure that no technical issues hampered the scheduled talent.
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Re: WTF are these mics?
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2019, 09:43:43 AM »
Two mics for redundancy is my guess, not uncommon on a podium.  Speculating that the production crew set up to do multiple interviews with multiple folks and wanted to assure that no technical issues hampered the scheduled talent.

Talent? We're talking Sebastian Bach here ;D
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Re: WTF are these mics?
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2019, 10:57:04 AM »
touche! ; )
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Re: WTF are these mics?
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2019, 10:26:42 PM »
I've always wondered why POTUS speaks into a pair of 57's instead of 58's.  visually appealing i suppose.
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Re: WTF are these mics?
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2019, 08:25:12 PM »
I've always wondered why POTUS speaks into a pair of 57's instead of 58's.  visually appealing i suppose.

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Re: WTF are these mics?
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2019, 08:58:38 PM »
reminds me of chili peppers 'playing' the superbowl with the guitar and bass unplugged

> They probably just used the boom mics from the interview for an impromptu photo idea.

That kind of thing happens a lot. Many engineers are protective of their exact mike choices and positions, and won't allow the ones that they really use to be photographed; many photographs that supposedly show a live recording are in fact posed, and the microphone usage (or even the choice of microphone to be shown) is dictated by visual considerations. For example, the attached NY Times glamor photo shows someone singing into the back of a cardioid microphone that isn't connected to anything.

I collect photos like these, so thanks to the OP for showing us one that I hadn't seen before.

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Re: WTF are these mics?
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2019, 01:24:58 AM »
I've always wondered why POTUS speaks into a pair of 57's instead of 58's.  visually appealing i suppose.
John Lennon had his own SM57 that he preferred to sing through (that I know of)


The thing about 57 vs 58 besides the sound, is that the 57 has a plastic cap, which is isolated from the metal body of the mic. A guitarist could potentially get an electric shock from a 58 if someone has "solved" a hum problem with a "cheater plug" or "ground lift" but the 57 will allow you to touch your electrically "hot" strings and put your lips on the mic and not get ZZZZAPPED!!!!


Perhaps they want to protect the executive from electric shock?
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