Topic: Stealth Recordings in Europe, need a mic and have no clue

[Humbug]

Blimey are those still available? I don't think they're that bad, they replaced the ECM717's, which I have heard reasonable recordings with.

Let us know how you get on.

[gauloisesblondes123]

Let us know how you get on.

...definitely will do. I´m curious myself 

[fandelive]

I browsed through a few tapings I downloaded and found out, that I kinda liked the sound from Sony-ECM 719s and even preferred it over the OKMs (Pop and Rock) recordings.

I'd be curious to listen to those samples if you can provide some links...
ECM-719 will give you nice results for open taping intimate acoustic gigs at some record shops.
If this mics fits your price range, better get a pair of CA-14 cardioids as they will give you way better results + they are easier to hide and to mount (don't think about getting good results with an ECM-719 clipped to the pocket of your shirt) !

The general need is for a stereo pair of omnidirectional or cardiod lavalier-type mics with high sound pressure level (SPL) handling.  Over 125db SPL should be the minimum.

The MM-HLSC-1 are said to handle over 138dB SPL without a battery box, but that's not true. They need to be modded (4.7k) to record loud shows.
If you're ordering from Soundprofessionals, ask for "low-sens" mod.

[Church-Audio]

I browsed through a few tapings I downloaded and found out, that I kinda liked the sound from Sony-ECM 719s and even preferred it over the OKMs (Pop and Rock) recordings.

I'd be curious to listen to those samples if you can provide some links...
ECM-719 will give you nice results for open taping intimate acoustic gigs at some record shops.
If this mics fits your price range, better get a pair of CA-14 cardioids as they will give you way better results + they are easier to hide and to mount (don't think about getting good results with an ECM-719 clipped to the pocket of your shirt) !

The general need is for a stereo pair of omnidirectional or cardiod lavalier-type mics with high sound pressure level (SPL) handling.  Over 125db SPL should be the minimum.

The MM-HLSC-1 are said to handle over 138dB SPL without a battery box, but that's not true. They need to be modded (4.7k) to record loud shows.
If you're ordering from Soundprofessionals, ask for "low-sens" mod.

You mean my mod LOL Right? 

[fandelive]

The MM-HLSC-1 are said to handle over 138dB SPL without a battery box, but that's not true. They need to be modded (4.7k) to record loud shows.

You mean my mod LOL Right? 

That's what I mean. I should have credited you

[gauloisesblondes123]

I browsed through a few tapings I downloaded and found out, that I kinda liked the sound from Sony-ECM 719s and even preferred it over the OKMs (Pop and Rock) recordings.

I'd be curious to listen to those samples if you can provide some links...
ECM-719 will give you nice results for open taping intimate acoustic gigs at some record shops.
If this mics fits your price range, better get a pair of CA-14 cardioids as they will give you way better results + they are easier to hide and to mount (don't think about getting good results with an ECM-719 clipped to the pocket of your shirt) !

I downloded the shows from dime a while ago and they won´t be available online anymore I guess. I have them on my personal harddrive though and if you want me to, I can upload them via yousendit or something - at least a few tracks from each show. Let me know and I will do so over the weekend.

As I said (or at least tried to say), I only compared those two different mics, as I was going to decide between those two. I thought the Sony sounded decent and that I would be glad, if my tapings would turn out like this... Of course I know, that there are better mics and quality around...

[fandelive]

No need for you to work on uploading some files if they are not already online. Thank you

As for the ECM-719 : you are a newbie and I'd say it is a good starter mic.
I started myself with an ECM-717 (older version of the 719) which I still have, but I'm not using it anymore. It gave me great results for intimate acoustic gigs when I got band permission to tape and stood first row.
I then tried club shows and even a stadium concert (almost rock acts) and decided, considering the results, to replace the mic.

If you do not want to order from an overseas company, you basically have no choice anyway.
Maybe you can find some european taper trying to sell some (second hand) mics here on TapersSection's Yard Sale.

Your ears have to be pleased with the results, that's the most important thing.
Keep us informed ! Good luck !

[guysonic]

Suggest a top quality two peice outfit of headworn stereo-surround mic + PCM-M10 flash deck as discussed in tye retail section of the newsgroup at: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=83254.0;all

[fandelive]

Americans will always say Church or Sound Professionals.  Both are good choices, but if you have a show on the 14th, there is no chance you'll get Church mics, or probably Sound Pros mics, in time, and you'll be paying shipping duties.

Ordered from SoundProfessionals and had to pay shipping duties.
Ordered form Giant Squid Audio Labs, Microphone Madness and Church Audio and paid no shipping duties.

I'm from France.

[acidjack]

Americans will always say Church or Sound Professionals.  Both are good choices, but if you have a show on the 14th, there is no chance you'll get Church mics, or probably Sound Pros mics, in time, and you'll be paying shipping duties.

Ordered from SoundProfessionals and had to pay shipping duties.
Ordered form Giant Squid Audio Labs, Microphone Madness and Church Audio and paid no shipping duties.

I'm from France.

Good to know.  My comment still stands re: the timing of an order originally targeted for the 14th Nov. in Europe. 

[TimeBandit]

Maybe you have to wait a bit longer especially when Chris has much orders on hold...

Shipping from UsA / Canada to Germany in my case needed between 1 or 2 weeks ... took only once 4 weeks because parcel was stuck in Fraport because of customs check.

[aaronji]

I've also had very quick shipments to Europe from Sound Professionals and Microphone Madness, usually a week to ten days.  Customs might tack on a few days occasionally... 

[gauloisesblondes123]

Hi Folks,

so here are some words about my first taping experiences.

For the first show on last Monday I didn´t even get the gear into the venue (yeah, I´m a Sissy and got scared in front of the doors, when I saw how closely they pat down the visitors... ;-))
Well, anyways, Yesterday I was at an Arena Show and everything went smoothly. I had a balcony seat but not very far away from the stage. As a result in a funny angle to the speakers though, but still I´m very satisfied with the recording as I heard so far. I´m sure there could be better ones around, but considering this was my first taping ever, I´m pretty glad about it. Thanks to you guys who gave me tipps and feedback about some do´s and don´ts.

Sooner or later I´ll definitely update to some "smaller/better to hide" Mics, though...

[Fried Chicken Boy]

^^ So what gear did you wind up buying, gauloises?  Looking forward to hearing your recording when you post it.

On a related note, Chris Church has an incredible deal going on right now that's good until November 28th.  Definitely worth checking out.

[gauloisesblondes123]

^^ So what gear did you wind up buying, gauloises?  Looking forward to hearing your recording when you post it.

I´m proud owner of an Edirol R 09 HR with a Sony ECM 719 Microfone :-)

Do people post their recordings or samples of it here as well? I didn´t stumble upon a section for that so far, but I´d definitely be curious to hear some thoughts from people who know their stuff (know more than me anyways to begin with... ;-))
For know I won´t be able to upload anything anywhere though, since I still have one single track and can´t edit it yet. I used to have Wavelab, but my old version isn´t working with my new PC anymore and I still need an alternative program.