Topic: Mic Stands

[BobW]

The 3373 definitely runs higher than 6'2" if you narrow the footprint.  Due to the stand design, the narrower the footprint the higher total height you can achieve.  I'm guessing stand manufacturers list the max height based on some fixed footprint and in the 3373's case we shrink the footprint to [1] add some additional height and [2] minimize w00ks kicking the legs.

And don't forget I mentioned the 18" gooseneck extension - not only does it come in awfully handy for clamping to railings, ceilings, etc., but it'll also get you an extra 18" on top of your stand when you want/need it.  Cheap, easy to carry around, very flexible.

What adapter do you need to top it with a mic clamp or shure vert bar ?

[Tim]

as for the footprint... you can cut down the legs on the 3373 to take up less space

[BobW]

as for the footprint... you can cut down the legs on the 3373 to take up less space

The lightstands all retract legs up in a kinda pyramid, so partial retraction = smaller footprint, taller pyramid .
Nothing to cut.

What does one do with the brass light mount pin at the top ?
Does it come off ? (doesn't seem to turn without tools & I don't want to mess it up)
Do I need a clamp ?

[tibbsa]

This question is one which really interests me.  I've found a supplier for the 3353 here in Canada (since the 3373 is apparently not available, and the only difference I can find is that the 3373 is black); however, I am having a really hard time pinning down what adapters are needed to connect it to a standard mic bar. 

In the archives, it notes that to get to something standard, you'd need part #3102 and #3366.  #3366 has been re-coded as 'MIBA' (or BOMIBA).  #3102 is  5/8" stud > 3/8" male thread adapter, and #3366/MIBA is a 3/8" F adapter to 5/8" Male. 

Now... the supplier I have, is suggesting that this isn't what I need, and what I really need is 'SPA18' (1/4" > 5/8" directly -  see link below). 

So... I'm a little confused on what one really needs, and don't wnat to order something that won't help.  :-) 

The adapter they've recommended is :
http://www.manfrotto.com/product/templates/itemalone.php3?itemid=178
edit: OK, I'm an idiot.  The above link is for the specifications for the 3353 mount, which seems to be a 1/4" mount, rather than a 5/8" stud.  So, the only adapter one needs on the 3353 is #3103 (1/4 F > 3/8 thread) ... perhaps?  (http://www.manfrotto.com/product/templates/itemalone.php3?itemid=158)

I'll wait for an 'expert' to chime in...

[John R]

low profile jecklin disc?

[BobW]

I'll post a pic of mine, but the top is a Photo Light mounting pin.
A Modeling Light or Flash Head mounts to it with a clamp.

My question is, does it unthread ? It has a knurled edge, but it is tight and doesn't seem like it is screwed on.
I don't want to spin a press-fit pin out of the tubing.

[EDIT]
BTW, "Bomiba"  converts a 3/8 male to 5/8 male, going typical lightstand end to mic clip thread.
That would go on a 3/8 stud to mate it to the mike clip or T-Bar

BHphoto.com has pretty decent pictures and the search feature works OK
Clicking the picture shows details and brings up accessories.

[EDIT] I found the clamp that it needs..... a pricey little $13 accessory clamp that puts a  3/8 stud on top of the pin.
 Worse yet, BH is closed for the next few days for the holidays.
Sometimes mail-order really sucks.

[John R]

i believe you guys may be looking for these:

1/4"-20>3/8"    http://www.cascademedia.net/products.asp?catid=133&prodid=677

3/8">5/8"      http://www.cascademedia.net/products.asp?catid=133&prodid=678



jr

i'd post a pic, but my stand is in the mail on it's way back

[BobW]

i believe you guys may be looking for these:

1/4"-20>3/8"    http://www.cascademedia.net/products.asp?catid=133&prodid=677

3/8">5/8"      http://www.cascademedia.net/products.asp?catid=133&prodid=678

jr

i'd post a pic, but my stand is in the mail on it's way back

No, actually it's this, the 3102, that I needed. The 5/8" stud is topped with this clamp-on 3/8" threaded stud for a T-Bar or a "Bomiba" 3/8" to 5/8" adapter (your second pic) to support the Shure vert bar.

[johnw]

So the 3373 is black and is topped with a 5/8 non threaded stud which needs the above adapter to get a 3/8 thread on it, then a 3/8>5/8 adapter to get a Shure bar on it.

The 3353 is metal colored and topped with a 1/4 thread, so it needs a 1/4>3/8 and a 3/8>5/8 adapter to get a Shure bar on it.

The only difference between the two is what the color is and what the brass mount on the top is.

[caymanreview]

probably different height stands

[johnw]

I don't think so - if you look at the specs they are the same and if you go to the bogen website and look up the 3353, it says
"Also available in Black Anodized Aluminum: Order Code 3373"

3373 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home;jsessionid=BWBwmRCNwT!-2138342476?O=NavBar&A=getItemDetail&Q=&sku=5602&is=REG&si=spec#goto_itemInfo Max height is 6.2"

3353 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=NavBar&A=getItemDetail&Q=&sku=5585&is=REG&si=spec#goto_itemInfo max height is 74.8" or 6.2'

[caymanreview]

ahh, i just figured the model numbers would be closer for the same thing that is a different color

[John R]

i see, wierd that manfrotto would sell stands with different heads.  i too got this stand  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=30080&item=3839877119&rd=1
and it does come with a head like this  http://www.manfrotto.com/product/templates/itemalone.php3?itemid=178  so both adapters were needed

cool thing about the adapter you've got is it ability to turn 90°, which would work well the the super clamp  http://www.tallyns.com/Bogen/SuperClamps.htm

[tibbsa]

So the 3373 is black and is topped with a 5/8 non threaded stud which needs the above adapter to get a 3/8 thread on it, then a 3/8>5/8 adapter to get a Shure bar on it.

The 3353 is metal colored and topped with a 1/4 thread, so it needs a 1/4>3/8 and a 3/8>5/8 adapter to get a Shure bar on it.

The only difference between the two is what the color is and what the brass mount on the top is.

I think that's about right.  

The one problem I'm having is finding the right adapters for the 3353.  1/4" > 3/8" is easy - #3111.  You then need a 3/8" M > 5/8"M adapter, which I can't find.  #3357 (part no 186) is described as "ADAPTER 3/8W F - 5/8 MALE", but if you look at the picture (link below) this doesn't seem to be what you get.  I don't know if the description or the picture is out of line.  

http://www.manfrotto.com/product/templates/itemalone.php3?itemid=142

edit: The archives say to get part 'BOMIBA' (or MIBA) to get from 3/8 F to 5/8 M, and this does show up on the www.bhphotovideo.com catalogue.  It does NOT appear in Manfrotto's catalogue, though, as best I can tell, hence the reason my supplier can't order it...?

[John R]

So the 3373 is black and is topped with a 5/8 non threaded stud which needs the above adapter to get a 3/8 thread on it, then a 3/8>5/8 adapter to get a Shure bar on it.

The 3353 is metal colored and topped with a 1/4 thread, so it needs a 1/4>3/8 and a 3/8>5/8 adapter to get a Shure bar on it.

The only difference between the two is what the color is and what the brass mount on the top is.

I think that's about right.  

The one problem I'm having is finding the right adapters for the 3353.  1/4" > 3/8" is easy - #3111.  You then need a 3/8" M > 5/8"M adapter, which I can't find.  #3357 (part no 186) is described as "ADAPTER 3/8W F - 5/8 MALE", but if you look at the picture (link below) this doesn't seem to be what you get.  I don't know if the description or the picture is out of line.  

http://www.manfrotto.com/product/templates/itemalone.php3?itemid=142

edit: The archives say to get part 'BOMIBA' (or MIBA) to get from 3/8 F to 5/8 M, and this does show up on the www.bhphotovideo.com catalogue.  It does NOT appear in Manfrotto's catalogue, though, as best I can tell, hence the reason my supplier can't order it...?

http://www.cascademedia.net/products.asp?catid=133&prodid=678