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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2008, 03:55:57 PM »
hey dennis - now, that's just not right, starting out with schoeps.  where's your learning curve, eh?  going straight from noob to slut in one fell swoop.  youre supposed to start out with nak300s, then SP c4s, then km184s, m300s, 4061s, 481s, THEN you get schoeps and then dpa 4011s.  THEN you go back to 481s, then m295s with nickel capsules, then vintage km84s, and then brauner vh1-khe's or manley ref golds.  then you decide its been your crappy converters all along that were holding you back...

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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2008, 08:12:17 PM »
I'm sure I'll miss something-

'94-'95: borrowed D-6 and Sony stereo electret
summer '95: bought a D-7/Radio Shack lavalier omnis
mid '95 - '03: patched/borrowed taping partner's Audio Techinica 822 & AKG c568eb/Aerco Pre (went through half dozen D7/D8s)
'02 - early '06: Sony M1 + Audio Techinica 943 (sold mics early '06)
early '04 - early '07: AKG c451b/st
7/06 - 12/07: AKG c414b-xls/st
6/06 - 2/07: Active mod. Nak. CM300/cp1/cp2
late '06 - 4/07: AKG c460b/ck61
2/07 - present: AKG c452eb/ck1/vr1 (later picked up ck22 caps)
3/07 - present: AKG c568eb
9/07 - 12/07: AKG c451e/a51/ck1 (kept the a51 swivels and sold mics)
11/07 - present: AKG c460b/a60/ck3
1/08 - present: single c451e/ck3
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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2008, 08:22:28 PM »
then you decide its been your crappy converters all along that were holding you back...
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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2008, 09:48:04 PM »
2002   Giant Squids                      Still Here
2003   Panasonic WM-61 arreys    Here, There
2004   Oktava MK-12                  Stolen / stellar hyper caps
2004   More Oktavas MK-012 (two sets)        Learned to Mod... Still here
2005   SP LSD2,  at853s                Sold it... Never loved It,    Burned the fet boards up dinking w/ them
2006   ADK A51 TLs , Franken Naks                    Still My Go To Mics, Never run them
2007   Shure PMZs, Full set of Pelusos CEMC6s, AT3032 set, Karma K10s MP, 57 x2, 58 x2, RED L/D caps for the OKTAVAS... Set Audix drum mics

Everybody trades up... I get more.  I run the TLs mostly... I don't run the Pelusos enough. Most of everything else is for when I run multitrack.

2008  ??
Cad E300S set.. AT822  AKG C 414 B-XLS/ST  
Dorsey-Mod MK-012 w/ O, C, H and RED L/D Caps
Superlux S502 ORTF   LSD2
Silverpath  Cables> 
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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2008, 06:48:12 AM »
1998 sony ecm-907
1999 crappy soundprofessionals mics
2000 schoeps cmc64,cmc541 sold to chris maler from strong island NY
2001 added mk41v caps
2002 gefell m960's
2002 sold all schoeps mstc64 to ryan gear,cmc641v to ron in NJ, mk4 caps to a nice guy in TN
2002 bought mg200,210,5 umt800 sold 4 of these stateside via gearslutz,m294
2003 akg c460 ck2 caps still at stpehen paul audio
2004 sold m294's to brother reiswig http://groups.google.no/group/rec.audio.pro/browse_thread/thread/ef0d5ae689e5717c/303144584a7e4fe0?lnk=st&q=gefell+m294+review#303144584a7e4fe0
2004 gefell m202,mk301 gefell josephson 606b's last ever made by master david josephson
2004 sold m20's to mw223
2004 bought mike oldfields schoeps cmts 501
2005 sold m960 to fred shuckert
2005 bought pearl dt40,neumann ksm105 for live stage work
2005/2006 nevaton mc49 from sami kirponen ..helsinki finland --sold to tnjazz in 07
2006 pearl ms8 modified to xy from fleabay
2006 violet design dolly and black knight-super cheapo




2006 karma k55 as a gift to friend
2007 nevaton mc400 x 4 sold to stateside..never had a chance to test them barely..lol
2007 bought another pair of mc49...damn special mics
2007 nevaton mc48 sold to lars klokkerhaug
2007 bought a pair of akg c12a with my studio partner ....refurbished by drefahl
2008 sold m210's to oleg
2008  maybe a u47,shotgun mic, more nevatons

propbably some more stuff here but can't remember to busy with other cool stuff


all i can say is the best mics i have used for shows are 1. mstc64 2.m294 3. mc49 ..that's my top 3.
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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2008, 11:08:22 AM »
this is cool, like a competition for who's the biggest mic slut.  so far, it is either john w or muj...
i rank a sad 4th or 5th... i need a soundfield and some m50s, maybe couple of short body u47s, or ela-m251s...

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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2008, 12:20:36 PM »
It is not a competition, just a confession.

OK, I won't list my history, I can't even remember.

But I did look over at my bookshelf the other night and notice six different baseball caps, each one with a different set of mics lovingly attached (with black hot melt glue).  Here they are:
- Sennheiser MKE2 (omni)
- Sennheiser KE4-211-2 (omni)
- Sennheiser MKE40 (lav clips, not glue) (cardioid)
- DPA 4060
- Knowles Acoustics BT1759 (omni)
- Nevaton MKE40 (omni)

Last night I tried out four of these to compare, my search for the "perfect omni" mic.  It goes like this: Put hat on, plug mics into recorder (minidisc, mic in, plug in power, PCM recording), drink some beer, speak to identify mics, come upstairs, announce mics to wife, listen for response, announce mics to dog, enter bathroom, wash hands, flush toilet, enter kitchen, get glass from cupboard, pause in front of cookoo clock, try a "rain stick" in front of mics, go to garage, get another beer, return to house, return to basement, finish beer.  Repeat.

Oh yeah, I think I have at least one set of glasses with mics crazy glued on the sides, and a couple of sets of headphones with AT853 series mics on them.

  Richard
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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2008, 02:34:25 PM »
I'm presently in a stomach-knotted state of flux regarding my microphone homeostasis.
I might purchase a few more of those inexpensive transducers that we use ;)

For what you typically record Moke, do not underestimate the AKG c45_ with the ck22 or ck2 omni capsules.  Though vintage and only available used, they are fantastic sounding SD omnis.  Hit me up to use mine (or to join you) next time you're in San Diego for a show.  I have three and have been itching to try a decca tree set up... >:D

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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2008, 05:34:52 PM »
1984-1986 TCD5M (borrowed mics: Beyer M160s, Beyer M88s, Nak CM100/300s)

1987-1990 replaced first worn out D5 with another one, Nak 100s w/CP1 and CP4

1990-1994 Nak 300 tri-mic kit, w/CP1,CP2,CP4 & MX100

1994-present AKG460s with CK61, CK63, and A60/CK8 (sold the guns in 2002 after sitting unused for 8 years)

It's nice when you hit the mics that sound just right to your ears and keep them for 14 years!

AKG C460B w/CK61/CK63>Luminous Monarch XLRs>SD MP-1(x2)>Luminous Monarch XLRs>PMD661(Oade WMOD)

Beyer M201>Luminous Monarch XLRs>PMD561 (Oade CMOD)

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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2008, 05:54:16 PM »
08/93 - Sony WMD-6C (traded in to Sony for...)
02/94 - Sennheiser K3U/ME-80 - pretty much retired but still kickin'
02/95 - Sony TCD-D7
07/98 - Sony SBM-1 (sold in 2000)
11/98 - Neumann SKM184 kit (traded in)
11/98 - followed right up with Oade M248 (sold 5/99)
05/99 - Grace Design Lunatec V2
sometime in 2000 - Graham Patten ADC20 (sold)
01/01 - Schoeps CMC6/MK4
12/02 - Apogee AD1000
10/04 - Sonic AD2K+
summer  05 - EAA PSP-2
Fall 06 - Tascam HD-P2

that's the field rig progression, more or less. :hmmm:
Schoeps CMC6/MK4  //  Nakamichi CM-300/CP-1/CP-2
E.A.A. PSP-2   // Grace Design Lunatec V2
Sonic AD2K+ 
Tascam HD-P2 (Oade BCM)  //  Sony TC-D5 PROII
 
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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2008, 12:25:39 PM »
slut

but in a really good way, yes?
Mics:        Akg 451 eb A51's, ck-1's, ck-2's, ck 8's
                Peluso CEMC6 MK2, MK4, MK21, MK41
                AKG 391
                CA-11 cards and omnis
Pre:          ST-9100
Cables:     XTC Silvers, DT47-12's
Recorders: ACM PMD660
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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2008, 01:38:06 PM »

a little slower to invest in high end gear than some..time-released sluttiness

Sony ecm907
AT 853
AT 825
SP C4
AT 4040
Peluso CEMC6 c,h,sc
JWmod 460/61/63/1x/mk46...current
also had a brief flirtation with some FrankenNaks
currently in drawer - sm58/57, EV4088, AT853/8533, Tascam PE120 and some SE sdcs from ebay

pres the same
SP BB > AD20 > UA5 > V3

and recorders
MD > 670 > MT > Busman670 > R4 >Busman R4

regrets? the Peluso subcards and wish I woulda kept the 4040 for mandos and acoustic guitars...so clear and bright.
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Oade Warm Mod and Presence+ Mod UA5s || Aerco MP2(needs help) || Neve Portico 5012 || Apogee MMP
SD Mixpre6 || Oade Concert Mod DR100mkii

pocket sized - CA11 cards > SP SB10 > Sony PCM A10

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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #27 on: February 29, 2008, 03:03:36 AM »
1999-2000 CSB->BB->D100 (sold)
2006-2007 SP Cards->BB->JB3 (in gear bag)
2007-present stealth CA cards ->9000->JB3
2008 Busman mics (ordered today) -> r-4 will order in two months or so...

Taking it slow and easy.

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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2008, 04:13:00 AM »
2003 - NAK cm-300 cp1/cp2/cp4
200? - JWmod AKG 460 ck61/ck63
2007 - AKG 414

still have a cp-4 but have never done the ENG i've always planned for

2003 - PMD670
2004(?) - tmod UA5
2005 - M148
2007 - PMD 660
2008 - FR2le (sweet sweet box)

FUTURE:

Sennheiser  ST8040's
Edirol R-44
DEVA (i wish, i think)
mkh8040>aerco mp-2>pcmd-50
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Re: Ahhh, the convoluted path we travel...
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2008, 12:29:24 AM »
Here's a "data point" from a little over 35 years ago. This picture shows me carrying my equipment after recording a Bach Cantata performance at Emmanuel Church in Boston: a Tandberg quarter-track open-reel recorder (in the large gray case) and a pair of "Advent" cardioid microphones (Beyer Dynamic M 81s, actually).

The open-reel machine was my first upgrade; its predecessor was an Advent 201 cassette deck. Soon I got better microphones (Sony ECM-22P electrets--as bright and harsh as the Beyers had been dull), added Dolby "B" processing, then got better microphones again (AKG C 451s), then a better recorder (a Revox with the Dolby circuit built in), then even better microphones (Neumann KM 80 series) ... and the chase was on.

Strangely, the nice young violinist in the picture is now in her late fifties. (Oops--so am I!)

--best regards
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