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Title: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: H₂O on April 21, 2007, 10:05:19 PM
Here are some pics of the internals of the M222 vs the CMC6xt.
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: Shawn on April 21, 2007, 10:22:01 PM
wow... it appears there are basically no common intenrals
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: BobW on April 21, 2007, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: ShawnSmith on April 21, 2007, 10:22:01 PM
wow... it appears there are basically no common intenrals

Surprized?
One is tube and the other is FET
They are very different animals
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: rowjimmy on April 22, 2007, 09:42:38 AM
Cool. thanks for the peek.
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: Brian on April 22, 2007, 10:25:25 AM
look how much less "stuff" the electronic signal has to go through in the M222's

/tubes rule
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 22, 2007, 12:20:20 PM
Quote from: Brian Sax on April 22, 2007, 10:25:25 AM
look how much less "stuff" the electronic signal has to go through in the M222's

Keep in mind there's all the "stuff" inside the NT222, as well.

(http://www.posthorn.com/Images/Schoeps/S_m222_acc.jpg)
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: Brian on April 22, 2007, 12:24:46 PM
let's crack open one of those boxes and see how much "stuff" there is :D
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: rokpunk on April 22, 2007, 12:44:37 PM
Quote from: Brian Sax on April 22, 2007, 12:24:46 PM
let's crack open one of those boxes and see how much "stuff" there is :D

i'm willing to bet there is more "stuff" in there than is in the cmc body.
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: Brian on April 22, 2007, 12:49:53 PM
is it better "stuff" though ?

/clearly backtracking after early morning brain fart of forgetting n222 :P

/tubes still rule though
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: Roving Sign on April 22, 2007, 12:55:28 PM
Why are the numbers blotted out?
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: H₂O on April 22, 2007, 01:23:43 PM
Quote from: Roving Sign on April 22, 2007, 12:55:28 PM
Why are the numbers blotted out?

I didn't want to share my serial numbers with the world.
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: H₂O on April 22, 2007, 01:26:28 PM
One thing I am suprised about with the M222 is how little the electronics are between the 701 Tube and the capsules.
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: Shawn on April 23, 2007, 09:32:54 PM
Quote from: -Bob- on April 21, 2007, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: ShawnSmith on April 21, 2007, 10:22:01 PM
wow... it appears there are basically no common intenrals

Surprized?
One is tube and the other is FET
They are very different animals
certainly, but I expected to at least something similair considering they power the same caps. I am in no way an electronics expert (though I techincally minored in physics-electronics in college), but I figured the layouts would at least be similair. It appears as though they basically have no common components.
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: BWolf on April 23, 2007, 09:42:57 PM
is the tube the device labeled 701?  or is it on the other side of the board?
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: Tim on April 23, 2007, 10:44:31 PM
thanks richard
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: muj on April 24, 2007, 04:53:34 AM
anyone know how schoeps balance the impedance from the tupe without a transformer? ???
Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: it-goes-to-eleven on April 24, 2007, 10:12:46 AM
As others mentioned, I'm sure the 60v circuit and other stuff is in da box..

Here's a cmc6.  Much less integration than the xt.

Title: Re: Schoeps M222 vs CMC6xt Internal PICs
Post by: BWolf on April 24, 2007, 11:33:13 AM
Quote from: muj on April 24, 2007, 04:53:34 AM
anyone know how schoeps balance the impedance from the tupe without a transformer? ???

RLC circuit?  just a guess...