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Title: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: moxie on August 01, 2008, 02:38:36 PM
Hello ya'll!
I'm learning how to upload to the LMA.  I've done my reading, notetaking, downloading programs and things went pretty well with the seeding and encoding....
BUT, now I can't figure out why flacfrontend isn't creating a fingerprint for me.

Here we go...
I added my flac files to frontend, highlighted them, clicked fingerprint, saved it to a folder and then when I open the file there's nothing there...zip, zilch, nada...just a cursor blinking away like it's laughing at me! 

I've tried uninstalling and installing flacfrontend twice now.
With no luck.

I'm at witz end and I need suggestions!

Thanks!

Frustrated in PA,
moxie
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: newplanet7 on August 01, 2008, 03:11:38 PM
I don't use frontend but use Traders Little Helper.
I've never had a problem with it. You should try it.
You can get it here. http://tlh.easytree.org/

Not sure why regular flac frontend won't work.
-todd
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: moxie on August 01, 2008, 03:16:10 PM
Thanks so much for the reply!
I'm on my way to try it out!
I'll keep ya posted...
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: newplanet7 on August 01, 2008, 03:17:48 PM
Thanks so much for the reply!
I'm on my way to try it out!
I'll keep ya posted...

Sure thing.
If you need anyhelp using TLH just post a question.
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: moxie on August 01, 2008, 03:28:07 PM
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!

You have no idea how happy I am.  I have been working on this for days and wa-la!  Checksum!!!!

So......questions...

Are fingerprints and checksums the same?   ffp.txt = .md5?? 

Is it okay that my info is in a .txt file and the checksum/fingerprint is in .md5 file?

Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: rowjimmytour on August 01, 2008, 03:42:16 PM
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!

You have no idea how happy I am.  I have been working on this for days and wa-la!  Checksum!!!!

So......questions...

Are fingerprints and checksums the same?   ffp.txt = .md5?? 

Is it okay that my info is in a .txt file and the checksum/fingerprint is in .md5 file?


Text file should read band name-date.txt  (ex) moe2008-08-01.txt
flac fingerprint should read band name-date-ffp-.txt  (ex) moe2008-08-01ffp.txt
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: newplanet7 on August 01, 2008, 03:42:59 PM
The fingerprint file that you made looks like this right?:
If you have an .md5 you need to change the checksum type from md5 to ffp in the drop down box.

FWIW I don't usually keep the actual .ffp file.
I open it and copy it to a notepad to make an ffp .txt file.
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: moxie on August 01, 2008, 06:01:19 PM
You guys are great!

I think I got it!...I guess we'll see!

It's funny that you said, "FWIW"... the song FWIW is on the recording I was working on!

Anyways, thanks again!

I'll be back if it doesn't submit properly...  :-\

This has been quite an experience!  I feel like I've learned so much in just a short time!
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: JasonSobel on August 01, 2008, 06:08:32 PM
Are fingerprints and checksums the same?   ffp.txt = .md5?? 

a FLAC fingerprint is a checksum only of the audio data contained in the file.  Fingerprints are nice because you can change the FLAC tags, change the FLAC compression settings, etc, etc, and they will stay the same, because you are not actually altering any audio data.

an .md5 file is typically a checksum for the entire file, including any header info, metadata (tags), or anything else.  the whole file.  So if you change or adds tags to a FLAC file, the .md5 checksum for the file will change, even though none of the actual audio data has been altered.
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: rowjimmytour on August 01, 2008, 06:09:41 PM
You guys are great!

I think I got it!...I guess we'll see!

It's funny that you said, "FWIW"... the song FWIW is on the recording I was working on!

Anyways, thanks again!

I'll be back if it doesn't submit properly...  :-\

This has been quite an experience!  I feel like I've learned so much in just a short time!
Its like riding a bike and that once you learn you will never forget so breath easy bro. ;D
Peace
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: moxie on August 01, 2008, 06:20:43 PM
You guys are great!

I think I got it!...I guess we'll see!

It's funny that you said, "FWIW"... the song FWIW is on the recording I was working on!

Anyways, thanks again!

I'll be back if it doesn't submit properly...  :-\

This has been quite an experience!  I feel like I've learned so much in just a short time!
Its like riding a bike and that once you learn you will never forget so breath easy bro. ;D
Peace

Thanks, sister!   ;)
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: moxie on August 01, 2008, 06:25:50 PM
Are fingerprints and checksums the same?   ffp.txt = .md5?? 

a FLAC fingerprint is a checksum only of the audio data contained in the file.  Fingerprints are nice because you can change the FLAC tags, change the FLAC compression settings, etc, etc, and they will stay the same, because you are not actually altering any audio data.

an .md5 file is typically a checksum for the entire file, including any header info, metadata (tags), or anything else.  the whole file.  So if you change or adds tags to a FLAC file, the .md5 checksum for the file will change, even though none of the actual audio data has been altered.

Okay, so fingerprints are definitely better.
Well, I used a checksum this time...hopefully everything will be fine.

Here's my show...so far so good! 
http://www.archive.org/details/bbp2008-04-26.somekindofjam3
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: rowjimmytour on August 01, 2008, 06:31:12 PM
You guys are great!

I think I got it!...I guess we'll see!

It's funny that you said, "FWIW"... the song FWIW is on the recording I was working on!

Anyways, thanks again!

I'll be back if it doesn't submit properly...  :-\

This has been quite an experience!  I feel like I've learned so much in just a short time!
Its like riding a bike and that once you learn you will never forget so breath easy bro. ;D
Peace

Thanks, sister!   ;)
WTF is up w/ the sister remark? :P
Peace
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: newplanet7 on August 01, 2008, 07:51:21 PM
You guys are great!

I think I got it!...I guess we'll see!

It's funny that you said, "FWIW"... the song FWIW is on the recording I was working on!

Anyways, thanks again!

I'll be back if it doesn't submit properly...  :-\

This has been quite an experience!  I feel like I've learned so much in just a short time!
Its like riding a bike and that once you learn you will never forget so breath easy bro. ;D
Peace

Thanks, sister!   ;)
WTF is up w/ the sister remark? :P
Peace
Moxie is a sister mang!
You called her bro..

Moxie if you're into teh bluegrass e-mail me and I'll hook you up with some stuff.
-todd
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: rowjimmytour on August 01, 2008, 09:11:32 PM
You guys are great!

I think I got it!...I guess we'll see!

It's funny that you said, "FWIW"... the song FWIW is on the recording I was working on!

Anyways, thanks again!
Whoops sorry my bad and +t for my mistake sister!! :-[

I'll be back if it doesn't submit properly...  :-\

This has been quite an experience!  I feel like I've learned so much in just a short time!
Its like riding a bike and that once you learn you will never forget so breath easy bro. ;D
Peace

Thanks, sister!   ;)
WTF is up w/ the sister remark? :P
Peace
Moxie is a sister mang!
You called her bro..

Moxie if you're into teh bluegrass e-mail me and I'll hook you up with some stuff.
-todd

Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: morst on August 02, 2008, 02:02:42 AM
Are fingerprints and checksums the same?   ffp.txt = .md5?? 

Is it okay that my info is in a .txt file and the checksum/fingerprint is in .md5 file?
Text file should read band name-date.txt  (ex) moe2008-08-01.txt
flac fingerprint should read band name-date-ffp-.txt  (ex) moe2008-08-01ffp.txt
Info should go in a .txt file, fingerprints should be in a .ffp file, and checksums should be in a .md5 file. If you have the .txt extension on the FFP or MD5's, some programs won't be able to check them, such as xACT for macintosh.

Okay, so fingerprints are definitely better.
The nice thing about the md5's on the LMA is that if a file fails to verify, you get an automated email telling you exactly which files are incorrect/incomplete. I normally post both MD5 and FFP's with my filesets.
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: moxie on August 02, 2008, 02:07:56 AM
Awesome!
Thanks for your help!!
I wish I would have come here sooner!
You have all been wonderful!
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: moxie on August 02, 2008, 02:11:33 AM
You guys are great!

I think I got it!...I guess we'll see!

It's funny that you said, "FWIW"... the song FWIW is on the recording I was working on!

Anyways, thanks again!

I'll be back if it doesn't submit properly...  :-\

This has been quite an experience!  I feel like I've learned so much in just a short time!
Its like riding a bike and that once you learn you will never forget so breath easy bro. ;D
Peace

Thanks, sister!   ;)
WTF is up w/ the sister remark? :P
Peace
Moxie is a sister mang!
You called her bro..

Moxie if you're into teh bluegrass e-mail me and I'll hook you up with some stuff.
-todd


rowjimmy, sorry...didn't mean to upset ya, was just makin a play on words.  truce?


newplanet, I am definitely into bluegrass!  Hook a "brotha" up!   ;)   jk....(sista!)
Title: Re: Troubles With Creating Flac Fingerprints
Post by: rowjimmytour on August 02, 2008, 02:55:50 AM
You guys are great!

I think I got it!...I guess we'll see!

It's funny that you said, "FWIW"... the song FWIW is on the recording I was working on!

Anyways, thanks again!
Totally my fault and I wasn't upset I was surprised but then I realized I did not check on left by your avatar if you are a dude/dudete that I am posting to and like I said I saw your response and was like WTF. Then realized I made a ass of my self again but I swear it won't be the last time.
Peace

I'll be back if it doesn't submit properly...  :-\

This has been quite an experience!  I feel like I've learned so much in just a short time!
Its like riding a bike and that once you learn you will never forget so breath easy bro. ;D
Peace

Thanks, sister!   ;)
WTF is up w/ the sister remark? :P
Peace
Moxie is a sister mang!
You called her bro..

Moxie if you're into teh bluegrass e-mail me and I'll hook you up with some stuff.
-todd


rowjimmy, sorry...didn't mean to upset ya, was just makin a play on words.  truce?


newplanet, I am definitely into bluegrass!  Hook a "brotha" up!   ;)   jk....(sista!)