Topic: Stealth DPA 4061's -- What batt & pre setup?

[voltronic]

Just a quick note to say that Church Audio would be my last choice on the list, as they have a long and checkered history here of being unreliable. Many of us have had personal experiences with them that I don't want to stir up here. I just want SMsound to get what they order in a reasonable amount of time.

[marcb]

Any reason to recommend against 4060 or 4061 XLR directly into Zoom F6 or F3? Seems small enough for most low profile applications without the complexity of various cable and recorder configurations, and no concerns around power? F3 would seem cost competitive with alternatives and F6 gives versatility for multiple mic configurations?

[voltronic]

Any reason to recommend against 4060 or 4061 XLR directly into Zoom F6 or F3? Seems small enough for most low profile applications without the complexity of various cable and recorder configurations, and no concerns around power? F3 would seem cost competitive with alternatives and F6 gives versatility for multiple mic configurations?

As someone who has owned and/or used all those things, I think that would be your highest-quality option with the least amount of external powering devices and adapters.

The F6 is not suitable for stealth on your person; the F3 is.

[aaronji]

The F6 is not suitable for stealth on your person; the F3 is.

For myself, I agree, but you would be shocked at the size of the gear that some can stealth! I know someone who regularly stealths with a pair of full-sized Neumann SDCs and a MixPre-10. Sometimes with an external pre. The force is strong in some tapers...

[voltronic]

The F6 is not suitable for stealth on your person; the F3 is.

For myself, I agree, but you would be shocked at the size of the gear that some can stealth! I know someone who regularly stealths with a pair of full-sized Neumann SDCs and a MixPre-10. Sometimes with an external pre. The force is strong in some tapers...

Damn! Is your friend a ninja?

[aaronji]

^ A lot of these guys are! Some of the people that frequent this board stealth more gear than I bring for an open taping show...

[grawk]

You'd be surprised how easy it is to get the gear in.  It's mostly about not getting caught acting suspicious once the show is underway.

[zeus163]

Yes that's what you want into A10 or an equivalent 1/8"TRS input recorder. The mics will run on 5 to 9V. A standard 9V battery under load generally measures around 8V.


Here are three suppliers of which I'm aware that offer battery boxes and low power preamps commonly used my TS members (alphabetical order) :
Church Audio
Core Sound (a DPA dealer that can also supply the microphones, either with or without an integrated battery box)
Sound Professionals

Naiant used to make a small rechargeable battery box called PIPsqueek and some other products that would work for this but does not any more.

Just to make sure I'm understanding this, a 9V battery box from either Church Audio or Sound Professionals would be acceptable to use with DPA 4061's? Would the 9V be acceptable for DPA 4081's? I may have a chance to pick up the 4081's and eventually an MMA. I heard a 12V battery box from Sound Professionals wouldn't be good for the 4081's.

Thanks.

[Gutbucket]

Yes, a standard 2-wire 9V battery box is capable of powering any DPA miniature microphone.

..And can also power any full-size DPA microphone capsule when mounted on a MMP-GR/GS amplifier which features a microdot output rather than on a standard balanced-output amplifier body.

It is only the legacy DPA full-sized microphones that have the capsule and amplifier permanently integrated with each other that are unable to be powered in this way.  Those will always require phantom power over a balanced connection.

[zeus163]

Yes, a standard 2-wire 9V battery box is capable of powering any DPA miniature microphone.

..And can also power any full-size DPA microphone capsule when mounted on a MMP-GR/GS amplifier which features a microdot output rather than on a standard balanced-output amplifier body.

It is only the legacy DPA full-sized microphones that have the capsule and amplifier permanently integrated with each other that are unable to be powered in this way.  Those will always require phantom power over a balanced connection.

Thanks! That's good to know.

[heathen]

I use a CA 9200 or CA UBB and have had no problems.  Also I use the rechargeable 9v batteries that I think put out less than 9v even when fully charged (to the point above about using a full 9v).

I won't go so far as to say don't order from CA at all, but definitely do your research and make an informed decision before doing so.