« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2005, 12:46:14 PM »
Bear with me here... I'm definitely NOT a smartass so please don't take this the wrong way... but then why doesn't everybody get these? Why the frenzy for MicroTracks? Is it the price difference alone or the 24/96 or the combination of Ipod like appearance at a good price and all that other stuff?
I used to go to CES every year and after years of auditioning cables... yeah, listening to cables... and a ton of other stuff I'm a little paranoid when it comes to subjective stuff.
Has anyone else heard really good sounding recordings off a stock 660? I've heard some stuff that sounded pretty good and I'm wondering if there's a way to measure the results of the mod.
I guess if something sounds good then you just use it and don't worry about it... which makes sense.
Also I guess the MixPre is out if I get an ACM 660, right? As best I can tell the modded 660 doesn't want a mixer ahead of it... I sent an email to Doug to try getting this stuff answered.
I don't guess anybody has ever taken any before and after pictures of any of that either have they? I'm sorry but I can't help but to be curious about what's really getting improved inside of the unit since you lose line in...?
Since I'm pretty comfortable with risk taking (and this probably isn't much of a risk anyway) I may just try one out... and yeah, I do think hearing is believing... but I'll tell you right now that I'll do a direct test with this thing and 2 other configurations all on the same bench... and you'll hear a split of the same dialog/sound running 3 ways... then you can crank up your headphones as high as you want and hear the differences exactly.
If Doug really wants to show the differences in a fair way then he should be using a multitrack and playing the exact same dialog over 3 configurations... to my ears it sounds like in the "stock" clip that he's about 12-18" farther away from the mic... So is that the result of improvements to the machine or increased room acoustics due to a longer distance to teh mic? Pretty much ALL I do with a recorder is dialog and I've done dialog with all the mics you see listed below... if you factor in the Lectro wireless sets and various lavs that's about $8K worth... and I can usually tell how far somebody is from a mic in about 1.5 seconds.
In one of the other forums I belong to a guy did a test like that to prove a point about a piece of really good gear... I think it may have even been a V3... and in his test you hear the character of the mic changing rather then what sounds like the room changing. I've listened over and over 20 times now and I'm telling you the room acoustics are changing somehow... it's either the room itself or the distance to the mic. You can hear reverb in the stock configuration and cleaning up the signal path will only make that sound more accurate, but it won't get rid of it. You gotta' do something physically different to change that.
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Current mics: 480b/ck61/ck63/ck69, Rode NT1000, Oktava mk012 hyper/cardioid, MKE-2, D230, RE50.
Past mics: MKH-416, AT4073a, ME-66, NT2000, NTK, NT3, TR50, M-150, M58, ATR55, MS907.