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Re: So the R-09's out, where does this leave the R-1?
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2006, 06:52:23 AM »
I don't think the gain control on the R9 adds noise unless you change it while recording.  Then it does add a small click for each gain step.  But they are subtle and easily masked by most program material, especially if the signal level is decent.  The click are also audible when the AGC changes the gain, but since the AGC decay time is very short I don't use it. 

I've talked to Roland USA and they know about it but so far have not responded with a cause or fix. 

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Re: So the R-09's out, where does this leave the R-1?
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2006, 04:13:18 AM »
what about when you're stealthing and need to do a level adjustment?  sounds like a POS in that respect.
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Re: So the R-09's out, where does this leave the R-1?
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2006, 05:44:43 PM »
what about when you're stealthing and need to do a level adjustment?  sounds like a POS in that respect.

Yeah, that is kinda discouraging...

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Re: So the R-09's out, where does this leave the R-1?
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2006, 05:55:09 PM »
what about when you're stealthing and need to do a level adjustment?  sounds like a POS in that respect.

Yeah, that is kinda discouraging...

i recorded a punky opening band a couple of weeks back.  intentionally ran a little hot at the beginning to see how well it handled near overage, and then i intentionally cranked it down by a few notches during a song.

the manipulation was inaudible to me on several listens.

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Re: So the R-09's out, where does this leave the R-1?
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2006, 06:01:28 PM »

my first (and only) time out w/ the R09 i adjusted levels multiple times early on since i didnt know exactly where to set them, and although i havent given it a detailed listen, i couldnt hear any clicks over my usual playback system. 
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Re: So the R-09's out, where does this leave the R-1?
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2006, 06:17:05 PM »

my first (and only) time out w/ the R09 i adjusted levels multiple times early on since i didnt know exactly where to set them, and although i havent given it a detailed listen, i couldnt hear any clicks over my usual playback system. 

Ah, well there you go... that's good news.

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Re: So the R-09's out, where does this leave the R-1?
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2006, 08:20:49 PM »
I've tested my R-09 for audible clicks several times and found nothing. I listened back via headphones, my Polks and a set of Dynaudio Contours and heard nothing. So either someone has a defective unit - or an overactive imagination...
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Re: So the R-09's out, where does this leave the R-1?
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2006, 09:00:25 PM »
I've tested my R-09 for audible clicks several times and found nothing. I listened back via headphones, my Polks and a set of Dynaudio Contours and heard nothing. So either someone has a defective unit - or an overactive imagination...
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I agree.... I used my R-09 for a recent Very loud show...I ran the meters very hot and got alot of distortion( I'm still learning)....But the sections that came out well sound fantastic.......I was screwing around with the levels alot ( the sound guy apparently had a sense of humor) and I can't hear any noise due to level change.....I use Etymotic ER4's and Sennheiser 650's......You guys may be misinterpreting the segmented change in sound levels and ambient recorded noise with the level changes...its not linear...I have done alot of testing at home ( I'm disables and bored to death), basically just burning in new cables and mics....and I have never heard what you guys have been describing...Sorry......Now keep in mind that I'm half deaf on my fathers side...so this may explain my opinion....

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Re: So the R-09's out, where does this leave the R-1?
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2006, 04:32:10 PM »
I can report that I haven't been able to duplicate any clicking sounds with level changes monitoring over some old but gold Infinity RS4B's and through Ety Er4S.  I haven't used the AGC function though.  The headphone amp could be a little hotter to drive the Er4S's but it's enough maxed at 100 level, though it's better through my little HeadRoom Airhead amp.
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Re: So the R-09's out, where does this leave the R-1?
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2006, 07:13:59 PM »
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