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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #210 on: January 17, 2013, 08:26:12 AM »
Naiants are around $220-$260 depending on cable length if you go the PFA route.  That is a great deal.
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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #211 on: January 17, 2013, 09:19:34 AM »
Jon's are $108 a pair.

Bob's are $450 a pair.

That must be some really expensive powder coat.

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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #212 on: January 17, 2013, 10:23:59 AM »
Jon's are $108 a pair.

Bob's are $450 a pair.

That must be some really expensive powder coat.

And a Schoeps KCY is around $900 - so what's your point

There are a lot of items that drive costs including but not limited too:
- design time
- design complexity
- build time
- local taxes and fees - (i.e. to have my LLC I have to pay $300 every year to the gov't - which I eat)
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- payroll
- cost of living adjustments
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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #213 on: January 17, 2013, 10:28:32 AM »
Jon's are $108 a pair.

Bob's are $450 a pair.

That must be some really expensive powder coat.

And a Schoeps KCY is around $900 - so what's your point

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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #214 on: January 17, 2013, 10:39:55 AM »
There really must be something in the air. All my co-workers are riled up here.  ???
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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #215 on: January 17, 2013, 10:50:41 AM »
I have to do the LLC as my wife is a CFA/CPA and if we don't do things by the book she could loose these very hard to acquire accreditedations

It's important to note that followingbob is in NYC whereas Jon is in rural NC - I would be willing to bet the cost of living adjustment alone explains most of the cost difference
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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #216 on: January 17, 2013, 10:59:20 AM »
duct tape on mouth right now. or should i say fingers taped together so i can't type.   just finished lockeed job. going to make some 2 foot wide,multi pair mic bars now. 
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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #217 on: January 17, 2013, 11:13:28 AM »
. . . I have a kinda nice soldering iron, but nothing sexy like a hot air rework station . . .

 

...there is enough HOT AIR on this thread...should you need one

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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #218 on: January 17, 2013, 11:15:14 AM »
nitrogen chiller might be needed.
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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #219 on: January 17, 2013, 11:16:03 AM »
Jon's are $108 a pair.

Bob's are $450 a pair.

That must be some really expensive powder coat.

And a Schoeps KCY is around $900 - so what's your point

The KC5 couplers, a more valid comparison, are $634 a pair, last I looked.  I could tell you why the KC5 is a better product, but I'll wait a while.

CNC machine time is priced as a commodity in dollars per hour.  There are many thousands of shops that can make these parts.  For cheap.

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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #220 on: January 17, 2013, 11:23:25 AM »
. . . I have a kinda nice soldering iron, but nothing sexy like a hot air rework station . . .

 

...there is enough HOT AIR on this thread...should you need one

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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #221 on: January 17, 2013, 11:25:44 AM »
going to make some 2 foot wide,multi pair mic bars now.

YES! thanks Jon



Jon's are $108 a pair.

Bob's are $450 a pair.

That must be some really expensive powder coat.


And a Schoeps KCY is around $900 - so what's your point

The KC5 couplers, a more valid comparison, are $634 a pair, last I looked.  I could tell you why the KC5 is a better product, but I'll wait a while.

CNC machine time is priced as a commodity in dollars per hour.  There are many thousands of shops that can make these parts.  For cheap.


The Schoeps connection is much more complex and superior to the AKG bayonet style. From the pictures I have seen, Followinbob's machining looks amazing. I don't see why people must cunt up this thread.

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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #222 on: January 17, 2013, 11:27:25 AM »
thanks louie. 
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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #223 on: January 17, 2013, 11:34:35 AM »
Microtech Gefell M200: M20/M21/M27 caps> Bumblebee MiAGi-II/Darktrain silver cable's/"Chuck" Belden cables> Aerco MP-2 or Busman modded DR-680 pre-amps> Darktrain cables & interconnects> Tascam DR-680 (Busman mod)
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Re: AKGefell Active Project v5
« Reply #224 on: January 17, 2013, 11:36:35 AM »
Jon's are $108 a pair.

Bob's are $450 a pair.

That must be some really expensive powder coat.

When is your setup being released and how much will it cost?

 

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