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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2007, 09:41:37 AM »
i use shoe strings and duct tape to interconnect my components.
i wanna hear those comps!
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #61 on: October 29, 2007, 10:41:45 AM »
i use shoe strings and duct tape to interconnect my components.
silver duct tape?
currently i have black, blends into the stand good but prob not good for interconnects ;)
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #62 on: October 30, 2007, 11:50:26 AM »
Might as well use twist ties. The cable shown on the first page doesn't have any shield; appears to be 3 conductor wire for permanent installation, in conduit.
You think this wire sounds better? Some people think tube mics sound better, but they have more distortion. Maybe what you are hearing is more distortion and you think it's better, because it's different.
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #63 on: October 30, 2007, 11:51:52 AM »
::)

hell I even use a tube AMP so I must be freaking deaf

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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #64 on: October 30, 2007, 11:52:34 AM »
Maybe what you are hearing is more distortion and you think it's better, because it's different.

Have you actually done any extensive cable testing or are you just spouting fluff?

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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2007, 12:49:16 PM »
Might as well use twist ties. The cable shown on the first page doesn't have any shield <snip>

??? Huh?  The cable from ebay referenced at the beginning of the thread very clearly has a braided silver (silver-coated copper) shield.
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #66 on: October 30, 2007, 12:52:07 PM »
??? Huh?  The cable from ebay referenced at the beginning of the thread very clearly has a braided silver (silver-coated copper) shield.

I was just about to link to the huge pic that clearly shows the shield but I think he's just trolling.

I wonder if he even knows what wire capacitance is.

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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #67 on: October 30, 2007, 06:42:44 PM »
Might as well use twist ties. The cable shown on the first page doesn't have any shield; appears to be 3 conductor wire for permanent installation, in conduit.
You think this wire sounds better? Some people think tube mics sound better, but they have more distortion. Maybe what you are hearing is more distortion and you think it's better, because it's different.
::)

hell I even use a tube AMP so I must be freaking deaf



distortion in tube gear is even harmonic distortion which has been described as "musical" or "pleasing to the ears" by many people over the years.  the parts in a original neumann u47 aren't as "up to spec" as the newer model but many still love the older model better.  they might have more noise or distortion but people love that sound.

no real point....just sayin'

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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #68 on: October 30, 2007, 06:48:41 PM »
yep, there's a lot of interesting articles out there on the interweb which discuss harmonic distortion and tube amps. I don't care how it measures, I just want it to sound good ;D

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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #69 on: October 30, 2007, 07:28:22 PM »
for fun I've been A/Bing two different types of mil spec silver interconnects between my DAC and amp today, both built by members of this board... there is an audible difference.

In one the upper mids and high end sound very squashed. These are the interconnects I have been using for some time now and the upper mids have bothered me for a while. The other pair lift the veil on the upper mids and have much more air in the high end.

that's just the effect on the upper end of the spectrum... I haven't listened critically for the bass. The soundstage seems to have noticeable more depth and height which I suppose is a result of the cleaned up upper mids and high end
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #70 on: October 30, 2007, 07:54:49 PM »
for fun I've been A/Bing two different types of mil spec silver interconnects between my DAC and amp today, both built by members of this board... there is an audible difference.

In one the upper mids and high end sound very squashed. These are the interconnects I have been using for some time now and the upper mids have bothered me for a while. The other pair lift the veil on the upper mids and have much more air in the high end.

that's just the effect on the upper end of the spectrum... I haven't listened critically for the bass. The soundstage seems to have noticeable more depth and height which I suppose is a result of the cleaned up upper mids and high end

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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #71 on: October 30, 2007, 08:26:00 PM »
In one the upper mids and high end sound very squashed. These are the interconnects I have been using for some time now and the upper mids have bothered me for a while. The other pair lift the veil on the upper mids and have much more air in the high end.

What is the difference?  Same cable, connectors, construction?
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #72 on: October 30, 2007, 09:44:59 PM »


I want to do this someday.
I don't have a high end playback system. I have never been able to hear a difference in the sound of cables.

Chuck, you're always welcome to drop by my place when you're up here in Denver.

I think my amp and DAC are relatively high end, my speakers are pretty mid-grade but I enjoy listening to them. If you buy used you can really stretch your dollars.

The difference between copper and silver was more dramatic than this difference from what I recall. I became a silver convert pretty quickly.

What is the difference?  Same cable, connectors, construction?

they are leegeddy and Segue cables, you'd have to ask the makers what the differences are. These are very early Segue cables too so maybe Todd has changed the formula. Sorry I don't have more info.
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #73 on: October 31, 2007, 11:43:36 AM »
People like distortion, makes the sound bigger... it's just a sound illusion. Many rockers love distorted  stuff.......... That's what these cables are doing. They don't have much flex life either, teflon jacket is made for pulling through conduit.
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Re: Mil Spec Silver Cable Question
« Reply #74 on: October 31, 2007, 11:55:35 AM »
People like distortion, makes the sound bigger... it's just a sound illusion. Many rockers love distorted  stuff.......... That's what these cables are doing. They don't have much flex life either, teflon jacket is made for pulling through conduit.

Many of us record acoustic and non-PA material...

Repeating my earlier question, what cables have you actually tested?   Why say a cable is not shielded when the pic of the shield fills your screen?

 

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