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Title: to cut or to boost
Post by: 1st set only on January 16, 2004, 01:41:03 PM
Im using sound forge to cut up this recording from lastnight. the left is a stronger channel than the right I want to balence it out a bit. what should I do? Cut or boost volume or something else?
Title: Re:to cut or to boost
Post by: nickgregory on January 16, 2004, 01:44:10 PM
I would mix some of the left channel with the right...play around with a clip til you get the right percentage
Title: Re:to cut or to boost
Post by: Brian Skalinder on January 16, 2004, 01:46:39 PM
I would mix some of the left channel with the right...play around with a clip til you get the right percentage

Why mix channels instead of just reducing amplitude on the hot / adding gain on the weak channel?
Title: Re:to cut or to boost
Post by: 1st set only on January 16, 2004, 01:46:54 PM
is this done with channel converter?
Title: Re:to cut or to boost
Post by: nickgregory on January 16, 2004, 01:49:49 PM
Why mix channels instead of just reducing amplitude on the hot / adding gain on the weak channel?

Alot of it depends for me how diverse an image you have.  If it is a great image then you cant do this.  However, if you dont have a really strong image (i.e guitar out of the right, bass the left, etc.) I have always found mixing a small portion of the one channel doesnt affect the image too much (considering it was not a great separation to begin with), and it was more natural sounding to me than adding gain/reducing amplitude.

This being said though, I have not had this problem since I added the Waves Direct X plug ins, so I would probably try these next time to see if it gives a better sound.
Title: Re:to cut or to boost
Post by: 1st set only on January 16, 2004, 01:53:43 PM
ok this has a very strong image. it is a onstage Blumenin recording of melvin sparks. he is on left drums and sax center keys on right.  so again how would I do the mix?
Title: Re:to cut or to boost
Post by: MattD on January 16, 2004, 02:20:45 PM
I would do it the way it was at the show. If you remember it being significantly louder from the left, then leave it. If you ran your levels pretty evenly and have matched mics, odds are this is the case. This really would have been the kind of thing to fix at the show, though, b/c it looks like your left channel is clipped to hell.
Title: Re:to cut or to boost
Post by: 1st set only on January 16, 2004, 02:51:26 PM
not cliped to hell it is zooomed all the way out. I boosted the right by 2 db and added a bit of bass  all is fine sounds great

*the first track is 23 min long*
Title: Re:to cut or to boost
Post by: MattD on January 16, 2004, 03:37:36 PM
That big, solid rectangle at the beginning isn't clipped? Were you running a limiter? I guess zooming in or seeing meters/clip count would tell you for sure.

If I'm wrong, my apologies.
Title: Re:to cut or to boost
Post by: Brian Skalinder on January 16, 2004, 03:46:10 PM
That big, solid rectangle at the beginning isn't clipped?

While that's a fairly large stretch of strong levels, I get a similar look scattered throughout when I zoom out on large (1GB+) waveforms where I've run my levels pretty hot.  When I zoom in, all is well - lots of peaks approaching 0, but none over (well, maybe an occasional...but not massive overs at any rate).  Just an issue with the way the software represents the wavform graphically, I think.
Title: Re:to cut or to boost
Post by: 1st set only on January 16, 2004, 04:16:37 PM
yep thats all it was. will put this up on the archive maby it sounds great! too bad it was so cold last night. -7

anyone have a complete set list of a melvin show with corrisponing mp3 for a quick download? I want to finish this up. most songs sounded like GBA/Galactic tunes mabey they are his, who knows. he did cover Pick Up the pieces and Thank You (Falettin Me Be Mice Elf Agin)