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Gear / Technical Help => Post-Processing, Computer / Streaming / Internet Devices & Related Activity => Topic started by: 1st set only on June 11, 2004, 10:17:00 AM
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http://audio-dvd-creator.com/
this seems to be the all out cheap solution for putting 24/96 audio on dvdr.
has anyone tried it? thoughts?
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Audio DVD Creator
Create your own music DVD and enjoy it on any DVD player!
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Audio DVD Creator is a revolutionary tool that changes the way you listen to your favorite music. You can create DVD disc compiled from normal Audio CDs and MP3 files, and play it on any DVD player since it's DVD-Video compliant. You can choose the audio format from high quality (up to 6 hours PCM 48kHz/16bits) or high quantity (up to 45 hours AC3 192kbps).
Please note: Audio DVD should not be confused with DVD-Audio, for which you need a special player and discs!
Features:
Put several (about 5-6) Audio CDs on one DVD with perfect audio quality.
Put thousands of MP3 files on one DVD.
Burn the Audio DVD to DVD-R/RW and DVD+R/RW.
Export the Audio DVD to hard disk folder.
Output format is DVD-Video compliant, so that it can be played by any DVD player.
Rip Audio CD to WAV files, and import them to Audio DVD directly.
Import 96kHz/24bits WAV files, and keep the superb quality.
Import Windows Media Format(.wma, .wmv, .asf), Real Media(.rm), OGG, FLAC, AC3 and AVI files via DirectShow Filters.
Preview shows an overview of your audio DVD.
Save/Load your project, and edit it anytime.
Blazing fast speed, only need about 30 minutes to create a PCM format Audio DVD. For AC3 format, it may need several hours.
Easy to use: the wizard will guide you step by step - very suitable for beginners!
System Requirement:
Windows 95/98/Me, NT/2000/XP, Server 2003
Pentium II 500 MHz
128 MB of RAM
5 GB of Free Hard Disk Space
A DVD-R(W) or DVD+R(W) Drive
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my biggest question would be whether or not it supports gapless playback. other than that, it looks pretty solid.
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you can download a fully functional trial version from the website. since i have no life, i decided to try it out. as i mentioned above, the only way this program would be useful to us is if it supported gapless playback. i'm happy to report that it does. i created a disc made up of swampy's JMP 16 bit pull from a few weekends ago and played it back on my onkyo dv-sp800. to my great surprise there were no gaps between tracks. that's not to say this will hold true for all dvd players. anyone else want to try out the program and report back on what you find?
BTW, i'm burning a 24 bit disc now. report to follow...
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update...
i kept getting an error message when trying to burn a 24 bit disc. two coasters later, i'm am trying the "write to hard drive" option so i can burn the disc in nero.
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gapless in 24 bit, too ;D now i'm kind of wishing i hadn't spent the money on discwelder bronze.
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How did you end up doing it without the errors?
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How did you end up doing it without the errors?
the program gives you the option of either writing to disc or writing to hard drive. i wrote the files to my hard drive, then burned the disc in nero.
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Yay glad it worked for ya!
I was gonna use it lastnight but i lost my 24 bit file to burn. Ill have to go and get some now
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How did you end up doing it without the errors?
the program gives you the option of either writing to disc or writing to hard drive. i wrote the files to my hard drive, then burned the disc in nero.
would the "write to disc" be similar to on the fly?
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How did you end up doing it without the errors?
the program gives you the option of either writing to disc or writing to hard drive. i wrote the files to my hard drive, then burned the disc in nero.
would the "write to disc" be similar to on the fly?
pretty much schwill!!
if errors are gonna occur, tahts how they usually happen tho
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im on this, thanks for the link!
il be trying it out with some 24 bit stuff this weekend, il report back!
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Are there any +'s or -'s when comparing DVD-Audio vs. DVD-Video with 24bit Audio? Cause that's what this program does.
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this program make me wonder is DVD-a is just a propriatery format made for us to but more gear and software.
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bump for creekfreek
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Ok, tried this out, seems that it doesn't like wav's run through CD Wav. The uncut wav files I originally recorded where added easy, try to add cd wave cut files and it says the file is not supported. How did you guys get around this? or are you not using cdwav to cut
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When I played with this program and had trouble adding files I found that I had an early version that didn't support 24bit files.
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Ok, tried this out, seems that it doesn't like wav's run through CD Wav. The uncut wav files I originally recorded where added easy, try to add cd wave cut files and it says the file is not supported. How did you guys get around this? or are you not using cdwav to cut
same thing happens to me with discwelder bronze. you have to check the "alternate 24 bit" box when saving.
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Ok, tried this out, seems that it doesn't like wav's run through CD Wav. The uncut wav files I originally recorded where added easy, try to add cd wave cut files and it says the file is not supported. How did you guys get around this? or are you not using cdwav to cut
same thing happens to me with discwelder bronze. you have to check the "alternate 24 bit" box when saving.
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sweet, thanks for the help, will try again tonight. +T
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Are there any +'s or -'s when comparing DVD-Audio vs. DVD-Video with 24bit Audio? Cause that's what this program does.
This has all the info in reguards to comparison of DVD-V & DVD-A. http://www.discwelder.com/pdfs/dvdAudioWhitepaper.pdf . Basically the only advantages to DVD-A is that it can support 192hz(compared to DVD-V's 96hz) & is capable of uncompressed multi-channel mixes.
this program make me wonder is DVD-a is just a propriatery format made for us to but more gear and software.
Seems to be the case unless you really feel the need for 24/192 uncompressed surround mixes.
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But, dvd audio can also support 16/44.1, which dvd video apparently cannot. Thus, dvd-audio would seem to be the only way to play back cd-formatted wavs.
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I burned my first DVD.....came out great except I got gaps between tracks..thought it was seemless, will try again using nero this time to burn the DVD-V files
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But, dvd audio can also support 16/44.1, which dvd video apparently cannot. Thus, dvd-audio would seem to be the only way to play back cd-formatted wavs.
I've burned 16/44.1 pcm audio DVD-V with DVD Architect
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ok figured out the seemless problrm....but when I burned it that way I can not skip beyond the first track, it will play fine beyond the first track, but if I hit the next chapter, it freezes up and my receiver just switches back and forth between analog and digital, can't get a lock ???
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But, dvd audio can also support 16/44.1, which dvd video apparently cannot. Thus, dvd-audio would seem to be the only way to play back cd-formatted wavs.
I've burned 16/44.1 pcm audio DVD-V with DVD Architect
Don't think that's possible, when i import 44.1 files for video in DVD Architect i believe it just upsamples to 48hz.
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interesting, disc I had issues with on my toshiba DVD player plays just fine in my cheap ass panasonic one...wonder if its the difference between use optical out and coxial out since the panasonic just has coxial out.
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But, dvd audio can also support 16/44.1, which dvd video apparently cannot. Thus, dvd-audio would seem to be the only way to play back cd-formatted wavs.
I've burned 16/44.1 pcm audio DVD-V with DVD Architect
Don't think that's possible, when i import 44.1 files for video in DVD Architect i believe it just upsamples to 48hz.
if its upsampling to 48, then its probably converting everything to Dolby Digital AC3 format which is 16/48
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I just finished my first "audio-dvd". I got gaps between tracks using 24/48 wav's. :(
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Luvean, it could be dolby ac3 or pcm. It just depends on what you told it to do. I still think it would resample to 48 in both cases. You can check to see if it's dolby by playing back the dvd digitally to a reciever. The little dolby icon will pop up if it's ac3 & it will say PCM 48hz if it's pcm. Sorry for the hi-jacking folks. ;)
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I just finished my first "audio-dvd". I got gaps between tracks using 24/48 wav's. :(
make sure you have it set so all the tracks are under one title as chapters...will eliminate that problem...when you use one title for each track, you get gaps...I did the same thing
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great program. Just downloaded the trial and successfully burned my first 24/48 show. Sounds great. Gapless. At 39 bucks this is a steal I think. I will probably get it just so I can start archiving my own stuff at 16/48 and be able to put full shows, and openers, on one disc.
edit: not quite gapless. I just noticed a slight pause between tracks. I'm not sure if I missed a setting, or what.
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just burned my first dvd-v 24 bit audio disc, thanks guys
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its a nice little program for the price..wish I could fastforward or rewind in a chapter though..can skip to the next track or go back a track, but that is it. Been enjoying the 24bit sound
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its a nice little program for the price..wish I could fastforward or rewind in a chapter though..can skip to the next track or go back a track, but that is it. Been enjoying the 24bit sound
fast forward within chapters works for me, but rewind just kicks you back to previous chapters.
Has anyone tried mixing 24/48 and 16/44.1 on the same disc yet? I imagine it would work, but I'm just curious. I'm going to try it later with 2 shows I recently downloaded.
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interesting, even says on the site that fastforward or rewind will not work with in a chapter...might be the DVD player you are using...too many variable with this...
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yeah, FF defintely works for me on both discs that I burned. I'm playing them back on my Philiips standalone.
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sweet, wish it did it on mine
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bump for silverbullet ;D
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bump for silverbullet ;D
Thanks, I just found this thread I'll give it a whirl. ;)
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its an easy to use program that does a good job, nothing fancy, but it works
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I just gave it a try on my lappie. Nothing new to post. I also ran into gap problems burning on the fly. I tried burning to my hard drive first then burning with a drag and drop dvd burner package and that still gave me gaps. :P I guess I need to get Nero.
One thing I did notice. My first five 24/96 tracks are about 946 MB but on the DVD it's around 328MB in a VOB file. I thought I would see something in the Audio_TS folder. Anyway, what happened to the other 2/3rds of the information. Was it just compressed? Am I still hearing 24/96 audio from the 328MB DVD file?
Looks like a nice program. Somebody please tell me you have the option of changing the two background menu image to a still photo of choice. It would be nice to fast forward and rewind but at least we can skip tracks forwards and backwards. :)
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I guess I need to get Nero.
pm on the way ;)
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Got Nero 6 Ultra but for some reason I'm still getting a one sec pause between tracks. Six DVDs later same is true with two other DVD burning software products and I even tried burning on my lappie and on another computer with a dvd burner :P bummer The DVDs still have the pause when I try playing them on my computer with powerdvd as well.
I'm still concerned that the vob file is about 1/3 the size of the 24/96 wav master file. Is this normal?
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I'm still concerned that the vob file is about 1/3 the size of the 24/96 wav master file. Is this normal?
Are you sure that you selected LPCM encoding for the audio tracks during the authoring process? I would suspect that you selected a compressed encoding if the VOB files are significantly smaller than the original wav files.
Are you reauthoring the DVD from scratch with each attempt? If you originally authored the audio in a format that put a gap between the tracks, then the gap will always be there in the VOB files regardless of the image creation and burning SW tool you use. Once the content is authored to DVD, burner SW doesn't mess with it - just puts it to an image on disc.
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It's worth a double check. I was not reauthoring the DVDs each time. I'm pretty sure the disk image on the hard drive was playing without gaps using and playing with powerdvd, which I took as a good sign.
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Still no luck at my end. The second go around at reauthoring some different tracks looked more promising. The size of the vob track was in line with the master 24/96 wav tracks. 8 DVDs later I still get a one sec. gap. I'll give WavLab a try. Would be nice just to use one program anyway.
Something I did come across and maybe my problem. I used CDWave to make the tracks. When I drag the separated tracks back into CDWave it looks fine on the graphics but sounds like white noise. The same file will play fine in Windows Media Player and WavLab. Wavlab still shows the separated tracks as 24/96. Sometimes I get errors from audio-dvd-creator that it doesn't recognize the format of the wav file. :-\
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Just saw this thread as well.
Few things. Instead of wasting DVDs to burn and see if it works....
When you successfully create a DVD-A in Wavelab, it renders the files into the AUDIO_TS folder. You can then use WinDVD 6 to open files/folders from your hard drive. WinDVD 6 supports playing of DVD-A, btw.
The other method is using the above said program (Audio DVD Creator?) and write the disc image to the harddrive and use a program called Daemon Tools that mounts a CD/DVD image and makes it show up as a new drive on your computer. Then follow the open from hard drive approach in WinDVD and point to the newly mounted drive (point it to open the VIDEO_TS folder instead)
This is a good way to test and make sure everyting is kosher before actually burning the discs. At least this is what I do/did.
Hope this helps!
Martin
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I'll second Daemon Tools. I've done this for extracted video images and works really well.
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powerdvd seems to work as well. It also does a great job at grabbing stills.
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bump. this is a great program and i couldnt find the thread w/out the search
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bump for those that have missed this..i just found it searching.....will try it out soon!
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Has anyone developed a "fool proof" way to use this program to make a 24bit 96kHz DVD trhat will play in any DVD player?
From what I have read, it doesn't make DVD-A discs, it makes DVD-V discs that will play in most DVD players. Has anyone figured out a sure way to eliminate the gaps?
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I have never had an issue with gaps, there is a certain box you have to check but I can't remeber what its called.
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I bought audio DVD creator last week and it works great. I've had none of the problems other folks are reporting. No problems burning files split with CD Wave. No gaps.
My only complaint is that it takes 45 minutes to burn a DVD.
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Has anyone developed a "fool proof" way to use this program to make a 24bit 96kHz DVD trhat will play in any DVD player?
From what I have read, it doesn't make DVD-A discs, it makes DVD-V discs that will play in most DVD players. Has anyone figured out a sure way to eliminate the gaps?
another bump for a chance to get this question answered...i bought this yest...and have burned two dvd's..BOTH have gaps...
I have never had an issue with gaps, there is a certain box you have to check but I can't remeber what its called.
I can't find a box anywhere??
thanx
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it might be a player thing...I have burned a couple dozen discs with it with no gaps...and there isnt a box you can check...it just does it
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it might be a player thing...I have burned a couple dozen discs with it with no gaps...and there isnt a box you can check...it just does it
well shit... >:( dont have the money to upgrade players anytime soon....oh well...btw..what player do you have? (for reference)
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I think I remember reading somewhere that the music must be part of the same title in order to be gapless. If you have each song as it's own title, you will get gaps. Not 100% sure of this though.
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I think I remember reading somewhere that the music must be part of the same title in order to be gapless. If you have each song as it's own title, you will get gaps. Not 100% sure of this though.
yea..i have it all under one title...still had gaps...that was annoying...i tried to read all i could about this...but still had those damn gaps...rrghh >:(
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Do you get gaps when you play it back on the computer(ie. power dvd/wmp) too?
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I use the samsung HD841...
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I use the samsung HD841...
thanx nick
+t to you guys for the help