Topic: Mixed format issues in Vegas

[PhxHorn]

Two different cameramen filmed a professional jazz group that I performed with recently, and I'd recorded audio of the event.  I contacted the cameramen and they gave me their original files so I can make a multicam DVd synced with my audio.   One source is 1920 x 1080 and  the second one is 1440 x 1080.  The 1920 one was given to me in the form of .mp4, and it plays and looks great.   The second one was given to me in the form of a Quicktime .mov file.  The video looks fine in the Quicktime player, but when I open it in Vegas it seems to be somewhat squished horizontally.   I've tried all sorts of different project settings in Vegas, and none of them seem to make any difference.   

Here is a still from the camera angle in question with the project settings at 1920x1080

http://oi42.tinypic.com/23ra0s2.jpg


Here is a still with the settings at 1440x1080:

http://oi40.tinypic.com/qqqwec.jpg


Is there possibly some issue with Vegas not interpreting the .mov file correctly?   Again, when played back in the Quicktime viewer, everything looks fine. 

[shoestringconcerts]

Image one is a 4:3 aspect ratio
Image 2 is a 16:9 image stretched to 4:3

Do both images play as 16x9 in your media player?

Right click your files in Vegas, choose properties and see what it says under Attributes, that will tell you what Vegas thinks the frame size is

[PhxHorn]

Image one is a 4:3 aspect ratio
Image 2 is a 16:9 image stretched to 4:3

Do both images play as 16x9 in your media player?

Right click your files in Vegas, choose properties and see what it says under Attributes, that will tell you what Vegas thinks the frame size is

The affected file plays as 4:3 on Quicktime.   The 16:9 file plays 16:9 on Windows Player.   Vegas lists the affected file as 1440 x 1080. 

I want to make a 720x480 DVD with this.   When I right-clicked on the affected file, I noticed there was a checked box that said "maintain aspect ratio".   When I uncheck it, things seem to get better as long as the project settings have a 16:9 ratio.  In other words, they both fill the screen now with the correct images.   But when I switch project settings to 720x480, Vegas squishes the second camera angle.  It doesn't squish it completely from 16:9 to 4:3, it's actually halfway in between.  Weird. 

[Chrisedge]

Leave it as a 1920x1080 project, and just render it as a NTSC or PAL widescreen DVD mpg. Should be fine. I did the exact same thing for a concert I shot. (Same mixed aspect ratios)

[beatkilla]

Agree set you Project Properties to 1920 x 1080 with Field Order NONE and deinterlace method to INTERPOLATE with BEST rendering quality.

I suspect these people did not give you the original files and have made copy with improper PAR .You can fix this in Vegas....

Add your clips to the timeline and right click>properties>and see what the PAR pixel aspect ratio reads.

Your 1920 x 1080 should have a PAR of 1.0000 if not change it to that in the dropdown box.

For you 1440 x 1080 your PAR should be 1.3333 if not change it in dropdown box do your editing and render to NTSC widescreen leaving the project properties as i have mentioned earlier and also UNCHECK the box in project proprties that mentions something like "automatically match properties to best settings"UNCHECK that.

[PhxHorn]

Done, thanks very much!

[guitard]

If I have the following three videos:

Sony DSC-HX9V 1440X1080, 29 fps
Sony CyberShot DSC-TX1 1280X720, 29 fps
Sony DSC-HX9V 1920X1080, 59 fps

Can I mix them together and encode a blu-ray file that will look decent?

[shoestringconcerts]

If I have the following three videos:

Sony DSC-HX9V 1440X1080, 29 fps
Sony CyberShot DSC-TX1 1280X720, 29 fps
Sony DSC-HX9V 1920X1080, 59 fps

Can I mix them together and encode a blu-ray file that will look decent?

Vegas should ingest them no problem,whether or not it will look good....well....that depends on the quality of the video shot

[guitard]

If I have the following three videos:

Sony DSC-HX9V 1440X1080, 29 fps
Sony CyberShot DSC-TX1 1280X720, 29 fps
Sony DSC-HX9V 1920X1080, 59 fps

Can I mix them together and encode a blu-ray file that will look decent?

Vegas should ingest them no problem,whether or not it will look good....well....that depends on the quality of the video shot

I know Vegas will take them, but what resolution should I use?  Underlying question is: can you bump up 1440X1080 and 1280X720 to 1920X1080 and still get a decent looking video?

[beatkilla]

yeah set project properties to 1920 x 1080 60 i.bluray has to be 60 i anyways.$ou wont see any loss or gain.

[guitard]

yeah set project properties to 1920 x 1080 60 i.bluray has to be 60 i anyways.  You wont see any loss or gain.

This all flies in the face of the long held notion about never bloating a video (or audio) file.  But I'll definitely give it a shot.

[Phil Zone]

Every time I have put a QuickTime in Vegas it doesn't load. So I just convertit to some other format like mp4 and it works great.

[PhxHorn]

OK, I took some quick and dirty promo footage of a band I play with, using 2 cameras, a digital camera and my cell phone.   I also recorded audio with my Zoom.    I'd forgotten that the digital camera is not widescreen, and so now I have one image that is wider than the other.     One has a frame size of 720x1280, and the other turned out to be 480x640.    When I have them synced up in Vegas, the 720 one is obviously wider and sticks out behind the smaller 480 image when I cut to that source.   This is just for promotional purposes and doesn't have to be a big image when I finally render it, and so I'm fine with simply cutting off the sides of the larger source.   How should I adjust my project so that the two sources are the same aspect ratio?  I've been messing around with PAR and various settings, but can't seem to get them to fit together.  Either one source is squished, or one is sticking out from behind the other.   

Also, on two of the 480 segments, somehow I dicked up the recording setting and filmed at 15 f/s, and they play back at double spped.  I figure that it must be possible to re-render the individual segments so that they play back at a normal rate before I insert them into the project.   How can I slow them down when rendering to an intermediate file?    Thanks.   

[PhxHorn]

Nevermind on the picture size, I figured out how to work around it with pan/crop.   Any advice on the frame rate problem would be much appreciated, thanks!