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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #345 on: October 25, 2022, 04:32:28 PM »
What software are people using on Windows to edit the 32bit files? Does it matter vs the 24 bit files (just reducing/normalizing down to vs up to zero)?
Reaper.  Explode the poly, edit, 24/48 (and/or) 16/44.1 renders.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #346 on: October 25, 2022, 09:27:32 PM »
I use Soundforge, and stay at 32Bit until the last step.
Perfect, thanks! That is my intent, Soundforge

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #347 on: October 27, 2022, 11:01:38 AM »
I am having a settings issue I can't seem to find the answer for.

In my LR mix, how do I change the panning?

I seem to have L set higher than R currently and can't seem to change it?  That is my assumption, but I don't recall doing this.  I have changed the pan of both my channels during tests to Center, the entire L to R range, and nothing seems to change it.  However, I swear that last weekend when I ran the R channel in the mix was higher than the L channels (opposite problem).  I have used 4 sets of cables during testing with the same results.  I even ran just AUX in with the same tests and had the same issue.

No ISO channels seem to be affected, whether linked or unlinked.  I can pan and center these all I want and the mix balance between L and R stays the same on the meters.

I run 4 channels and, while I just use the ISOs in post, I want the mix for my rides/drives home from the stereo out.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #348 on: October 27, 2022, 09:38:08 PM »
What software are people using on Windows to edit the 32bit files? Does it matter vs the 24 bit files (just reducing/normalizing down to vs up to zero)?
I use Soundforge, and stay at 32Bit until the last step. I do separate each track and work on the stereo pairs. In Soundforge each stereo track is a different color in the polyfile, so separating each stereo file is easy. Below is a poly file with 2 stereo pairs (2 different mic setups), and then an example of one of the stereo files that was split out and tracked.

did you know that you can import markers from one file to another? useful when working with multiple stereo files in separate windows that are time-linked

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #349 on: October 28, 2022, 06:33:52 AM »
Fixed my issue.  Not sure how I adjusted the mix balance in the first place.  Really getting into this deck.  Lots of videos and 2 of 7 of the archived threads on the 6 and 6ii read.  Now to figure out how to set the different channel levels in the LR mix from my ISOs.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #350 on: October 28, 2022, 10:17:44 AM »
this deck is really frustrating me. So I'm running in custom mode. using the channel knobs for gain. was adding about 30db of gain. Levels were mostly in the -20 ->-12 range. For the life of me I can't get this deck to peak out around -8 to 0db. If I add more gain it seems to be too much gain and the knobs start to blink red which I guess means its close to clipping. I'm running 24bit not 32 float.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #351 on: October 28, 2022, 10:55:28 AM »
Looks like you are running into the limiters. They start to kick in a few db below 0dbfs. If you want to run “unprotected”, you can turn off the limiters in the menu. Then if you hit over 0dbfs, you will clip. The limiters in the mixpre-6ii are very good, and adjustable. Read the section in the manual about them for more.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #352 on: October 28, 2022, 11:09:52 AM »
Looks like you are running into the limiters. They start to kick in a few db below 0dbfs. If you want to run “unprotected”, you can turn off the limiters in the menu. Then if you hit over 0dbfs, you will clip. The limiters in the mixpre-6ii are very good, and adjustable. Read the section in the manual about them for more.
thanks. I could've sworn I had them off. Is there a way to save your settings?
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #353 on: October 28, 2022, 11:52:36 AM »
User presets are sets of settings. 3 or 4 presets may be saved in internal memory, and one may save as many as desired to the sd card.

Settings on the SD may be downloaded to a pc for long term storage.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #354 on: October 28, 2022, 01:39:38 PM »
I've gotta get this thing functioning properly before TreyGoose.  :banging head:
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #355 on: October 28, 2022, 02:20:14 PM »
Use 32bit float and it disables the limiters.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #356 on: October 29, 2022, 03:20:53 PM »

User presets are sets of settings. 3 or 4 presets may be saved in internal memory, and one may save as many as desired to the sd card.

Settings on the SD may be downloaded to a pc for long term storage.

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Be sure to back up the presets if you ever format the card. Formatting the card will wipe all the presets' xml files.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #357 on: November 03, 2022, 12:08:39 AM »
What usb stick is everyone using for real time backup? Jbell reminded me about this feature a few days ago.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #358 on: November 03, 2022, 01:41:30 AM »
What usb stick is everyone using for real time backup? Jbell reminded me about this feature a few days ago.

I'm using the 64GB and 256GB usb drives here:  https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1445629-REG/pny_technologies_p_fdi256exfit_ge_elite_x_fit_256gb_200mb.html
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 7
« Reply #359 on: November 03, 2022, 06:42:39 AM »
I have a 64gig PNY for backup!  Works great.
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