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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2022, 06:08:17 PM »
Awesome thread here. I have been taking note of some threads on TS and elsewhere for when I eventually make a modular setup. I am definitely marking the SmallRig 6 pc rod set. The cheese bar is sadly discontinued.

Two items I will contribute:

15 mm clamp with 3/8" female thread to attach bar to stand:
https://www.camvate.com/products/camvate-15mm-quick-release-rod-clamp-black-ratchet-knob-1680

15 mm clamp with 3/8" male thread for mics (the only one I have ever seen to get you 3/8" male without adapters):
https://www.camvate.com/products/camvate-15mm-single-rod-clamp-adapter-convert-to-3-8-16-mounting-screw-for-dslr-camera-cage-rod-support-2280
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2022, 06:11:54 PM »
I should pickup one of those sweet clamps!

You have probably seen me sing the praises of that clamp more than once here. boa's 3rd pic perfectly shows one of the ways is blows away all of the Manfrotto options - even with a small grip surface, that thing will not budge laterally even on very smooth surfaces. I will be using mine exactly this way later this week.

For those who don't know, I did a write-up on it. Easily one of the best pieces of taping gear I have ever bought.
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2022, 01:28:32 AM »
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2022, 12:23:41 PM »
Awesome thread here. I have been taking note of some threads on TS and elsewhere for when I eventually make a modular setup. I am definitely marking the SmallRig 6 pc rod set. The cheese bar is sadly discontinued.

Two items I will contribute:

15 mm clamp with 3/8" female thread to attach bar to stand:
https://www.camvate.com/products/camvate-15mm-quick-release-rod-clamp-black-ratchet-knob-1680

15 mm clamp with 3/8" male thread for mics (the only one I have ever seen to get you 3/8" male without adapters):
https://www.camvate.com/products/camvate-15mm-single-rod-clamp-adapter-convert-to-3-8-16-mounting-screw-for-dslr-camera-cage-rod-support-2280

Volt,

The cheese rod is available here: 

https://www.adorama.com/sr1462.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organicshopping&utm_source=adl-gbase-o

I ordered a few from Adorama yersterday.


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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2022, 05:03:10 PM »
Awesome thread here. I have been taking note of some threads on TS and elsewhere for when I eventually make a modular setup. I am definitely marking the SmallRig 6 pc rod set. The cheese bar is sadly discontinued.

Two items I will contribute:

15 mm clamp with 3/8" female thread to attach bar to stand:
https://www.camvate.com/products/camvate-15mm-quick-release-rod-clamp-black-ratchet-knob-1680

15 mm clamp with 3/8" male thread for mics (the only one I have ever seen to get you 3/8" male without adapters):
https://www.camvate.com/products/camvate-15mm-single-rod-clamp-adapter-convert-to-3-8-16-mounting-screw-for-dslr-camera-cage-rod-support-2280

Volt,

The cheese rod is available here: 

https://www.adorama.com/sr1462.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organicshopping&utm_source=adl-gbase-o

I ordered a few from Adorama yersterday.

Nice; thanks! I see they actually have a few sizes:
https://www.adorama.com/l/?searchinfo=15mm+cheese+rod&sel=Item-Condition_New-Items
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2022, 07:21:19 PM »
Thanks to all who contributed to this thread!

I've built a rig for 2' and 4' spaced omnis with coincident supercards in the center.

The cheese rod is a real win, bringing easy adjustability for spacing. I use wingbolts and go up through the 3/8" holes for easier aiming than using the 1/4" holes.

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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2022, 09:27:19 AM »
Nice lookin'.  After using it a few times, let me know what you think of the recordings you get from it.
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2022, 10:53:45 AM »
Wanted to share that I found a different off-the-shelf solution, although a bit bulkier (which in my case was good).  Ran 36" split omnis at Phil this weekend on this baby, and it handled the heft of the full-body Nak300s like a boss.  The counterweight screws off and leaves a 5/8" thread in its place.
 
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2022, 12:47:49 PM »
Wanted to share that I found a different off-the-shelf solution, although a bit bulkier (which in my case was good).  Ran 36" split omnis at Phil this weekend on this baby, and it handled the heft of the full-body Nak300s like a boss.  The counterweight screws off and leaves a 5/8" thread in its place.
 
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01ND0AKV7?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
Good pricing. Much less than a manfrotto triple bar. Did you get a rig pic?
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2022, 12:57:30 PM »


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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2022, 01:11:35 PM »
Nice find and looks to work well.  Too bad it won't go just a foot or two wider for optimal combination with a center pair.  But 3' is good enough, and often optimal for a pair of omnis on their own.
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2022, 03:22:47 PM »
nice pics. it looks as if one could mount an extender bar on one end and get it to go out wider.
solid piece of EQ from the pics I noted. The 360' mount swivel dealio is much cooler than the traditional boom arm mount.
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2022, 03:55:43 PM »
Nice find and looks to work well.  Too bad it won't go just a foot or two wider for optimal combination with a center pair.  But 3' is good enough, and often optimal for a pair of omnis on their own.

I bought a few of these short extension poles a year or so ago: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07S3HTTZZ

In collapsed position they're 7" and they extend to 12", so they would essentially fill that gap perfectly. They have a 3/8" female mount but comes with 1/4" adapter. I didn't have a need for them until I started putting together my own spaced omni / center pair array recently. I'll have to wait a bit longer to find out how well they work in the field because the shows that I designed this rig for were cancelled, but they seem to be of decent enough quality.
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2022, 04:16:56 PM »
Looks just right.

Nice to have the option to go wider when possible, realizing that in many situations it may not be possible.. or wise.
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Re: ISO: Spread omni mount/bar options
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2022, 04:21:05 PM »
Too much of everything is just enough!

I like how light the 15mm stuff is. Just got another pair of 1' rods so I can do 6' spread omnis:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AZFPK2I/?coliid=I3SB48PQ4MMYMD&colid=3DZZOP8FFXTR&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it&th=1
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