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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2022, 08:48:01 AM »
I’ve always been a Dropbox guy, and continue to be relatively happy with their services.

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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2022, 10:44:20 AM »
I’ve always been a Dropbox guy, and continue to be relatively happy with their services.

I use Dropbox also; but not for archiving stuff.  It's a 2TB account that I mainly use for transferring stuff back and forth between other tapers/filmers. 

In order to archive something like 20TBs on Dropbox, you would need an Advanced or Enterprise account.  Those require 3+ users and cost $24/mth per user for Advanced; and even more for Enterprise.  If you find a good bunch of guys to team up with; that could work out nicely.  But when you start thinking long term ... I don't know.  Most of us are 50s or older.  So you have to keep that bunch of (old) guys together; not to mention, hope Dropbox doesn't go away at some point or make drastic changes to its service or prices.

That's why I have added a NAS to my storage plan.  My 20TBs of stuff is right there at my fingertips; and I don't have to mess with a pile of external drives to maintain it.
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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2022, 03:49:18 AM »
+1 on Hightail

I just put everything in a single folder, zip it, and upload the zip file.  $16 a month or something like that and no limit to storage.  Easy to share the link. 
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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2022, 05:32:39 AM »
EDIT: If you are purely looking for a service to SHARE then Google, Hightail, PCloud, etc. seem to make the most sense.  This type of service is sort of a hybrid and is not primarily meant for long-term storage like Backblaze B2 or AWS Glacier.  For $50 per month you can sock away 10TB on B2 but I cannot say how easy it is to link/retrieve.  Keep in mind that STORAGE solutions will charge you a 2nd time for each time it is accessed and pulled back down.

This. I have heard people who have lost their data and go to retrieve it and it's close to $1k to pull it back down.
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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2022, 10:37:10 AM »
EDIT: If you are purely looking for a service to SHARE then Google, Hightail, PCloud, etc. seem to make the most sense.  This type of service is sort of a hybrid and is not primarily meant for long-term storage like Backblaze B2 or AWS Glacier.  For $50 per month you can sock away 10TB on B2 but I cannot say how easy it is to link/retrieve.  Keep in mind that STORAGE solutions will charge you a 2nd time for each time it is accessed and pulled back down.

This. I have heard people who have lost their data and go to retrieve it and it's close to $1k to pull it back down.

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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2022, 08:05:53 AM »
Cloud storage options - I am embarking on a project to organize my files. They currently reside on many external/bare drives, duplicate copies, etc., but I never know where a particular show is. Rather than have this stuff on external drives, it makes sense for me to organize them to the cloud


Devil's advocate here. JBOD user. (Just a Bunch Of Discs)


I suggest getting an indexing program so you can keep an database of all your files available, even when the drives are in a drawer, a safety deposit box, or your folks's attic!?


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For less than 10 drives, it's FREE.
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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2022, 09:49:47 AM »
It is hard to send a link to shows from a JBOD arrangement. One of the advantages of cloud storage and certainly one of my requirements.
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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2022, 03:27:25 PM »
It is hard to send a link to shows from a JBOD arrangement. One of the advantages of cloud storage and certainly one of my requirements.

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My NAS is a JBOD but I can send anyone a link from within Plex.  I can also share my entire library via an email address and a free Plex account.
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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2022, 03:36:50 PM »
The problem with a NAS solution, in my opinion, is that it is local. Don't get me wrong: I have, and love, a NAS and use it to directly serve music to my playback system as well as getting a little redundancy in case a drive dies. If the house burns down, or floods, or whatever, though, I will lose my main drives AND my NAS. For me, that is the reason for a cloud backup. It can get expensive, so I guess it depends a little on what you want to achieve. Backup? Distribution? Both? And how many TB are we talking about?

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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2022, 04:21:46 PM »
The problem with a NAS solution, in my opinion, is that it is local. Don't get me wrong: I have, and love, a NAS and use it to directly serve music to my playback system as well as getting a little redundancy in case a drive dies. If the house burns down, or floods, or whatever, though, I will lose my main drives AND my NAS. For me, that is the reason for a cloud backup. It can get expensive, so I guess it depends a little on what you want to achieve. Backup? Distribution? Both? And how many TB are we talking about?

I know there are cloud backup solutions for the NAS; although I haven't really looked into them very closely.  My initial impression is that they are somewhat expensive because typically they charge monthly by the GB.  It's just a half of a penny per GB ($0.005) per month for storage and $0.01 per GB for download, but that really adds up.

I am still relatively new to the NAS thing.  I haven't looked into closely, and the initial cost will be big; but there is also the option of having a second NAS setup outside your house that's networked with your first NAS.  Possibly find another taper with a NAS willing to do this with you and you become each other's backup.
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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2022, 04:41:54 PM »
^ My IDrive account is about $75 a year for 10 TB. That is more than enough for me (for now) and cheaper than a second NAS. I backup selected portions of my main drives, NAS, and laptop. I have found that I am too lazy to manage a non-local option that requires any effort on my part. The cloud option is completely painless. It helps that I do almost no video and don't take tons of photos...

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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2022, 07:52:52 PM »
It is hard to send a link to shows from a JBOD arrangement. One of the advantages of cloud storage and certainly one of my requirements.
ok well yeah, if you keep them off line like i do then it's not possible at all.
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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2022, 08:34:14 PM »
Yep, I'm not running any servers any longer. I like turning on my laptop when I need to do something. I've run servers in the past, no issues with the technology, I just don't want to spend time setting them up and keeping them up. JBOD is what I use now for storage, but not going to invest in indexing them all when I can just upload to the cloud and get the sharing functionality at the same time I am organizing them.
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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2022, 10:33:47 AM »
Yep, I'm not running any servers any longer. I like turning on my laptop when I need to do something. I've run servers in the past, no issues with the technology, I just don't want to spend time setting them up and keeping them up.

I've only been running my Synology NAS for a few months, so maybe it's just too soon to say.  But setting up that NAS was so simple, I was dumbfounded when I realized I was finished and everything was running smoothly (and surprisingly, I did it with no help from my tech-savvy youngest son).  From unboxing, installing the four drives, to having it up and running (which included following along with a 34 min tutorial on Youtube) was around an hour.  I shoot 4K video and tape audio, so I need a lot of storage capacity.  So far, I have 18TBs stored on my NAS.  As I said, maybe it's too soon to claim success.  But it has run seamlessly in the background without even the slightest hickup, so maybe it's been a while since you did this and they are easier to set up and maintain now?
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Re: Cloud Storage Options - August 2022
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2022, 08:27:39 PM »
So far, I have 18TBs stored on my NAS.  As I said, maybe it's too soon to claim success.  But it has run seamlessly in the background without even the slightest hickup, so maybe it's been a while since you did this and they are easier to set up and maintain now?

Careful... this is how you anger the data backup gods.  >:D

Just chiming in to say that running NAS is really cool, but be sure to have separate backups for it that are not part of the same array. A NAS array can be a single point of failure with a power surge, or more recently, malware.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/synology-warns-of-malware-infecting-nas-devices-with-ransomware/

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/qnap-patches-zero-day-used-in-new-deadbolt-ransomware-attacks/
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