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Re: Mic. Advice For Hi-MD -> R09 Step-up
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2008, 08:51:50 AM »
As an experiment, I taped a show using a pair of Church Audio STC-11 (omnis) into a Marantz PMD620 (http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,91816.msg1302623.html#msg1302623).  It worked, and the second set (when I got away from the chatterers) sounds pretty good.  If I was really interested in going super low-pro, I would do it again.  That being said, though, it just sounds much better with the 9100 in the mix!  And still very compact...

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Re: Mic. Advice For Hi-MD -> R09 Step-up
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2008, 09:34:54 AM »
Church Audio STC-11 > R-09 is a pretty viable setup.

That's interesting... I found a few other sources with this rig:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/662332
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3808853/Prince_-_The_O2__London__28_August_2007

But what are the limitations, compared to running with the 9100 pre or similar?
Will the signal be hot enough, or would you have to apply lots of gain in the R09?
What about lower SPL/acoustic gigs?

I ran the R-09 on mic-in around 13 (a common theory for the "unity" value) and did normalization in post on that Foo Fighters show.  I can easily see it not being enough for quiet/acoustic gigs, but Chris has said that the 5v from the R-09 is enough to give the mics all the power they need (link) for high-SPL situations.

For quiet/acoustic stuff, I'd definitely recommend the pre-amp.  For rock shows, however, you can get by without it.
nothing > nada > R-09

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Re: Mic. Advice For Hi-MD -> R09 Step-up
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2008, 09:36:34 AM »
If I was really interested in going super low-pro, I would do it again.  That being said, though, it just sounds much better with the 9100 in the mix!  And still very compact...

This is pretty much how I felt about it.  I'm still not savvy enough to stealth the R-09 and the 9100 in an aggressive pat-down, but getting the R-09 and a pair of mics through the door is super easy.

I agree, though.  The 9100 does make the whole rig sound better.  I run it when I can, but it's nice to know that I can leave it out, too.
nothing > nada > R-09

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Re: Mic. Advice For Hi-MD -> R09 Step-up
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2008, 10:05:32 AM »
I'm still not savvy enough to stealth the R-09 and the 9100 in an aggressive pat-down, but getting the R-09 and a pair of mics through the door is super easy.

I agree, though.  The 9100 does make the whole rig sound better.  I run it when I can, but it's nice to know that I can leave it out, too.

+T to both of ya for experimenting, that's good news! More versatility with either the 620 or R09 in the rig.
How about an H120 powering the STC-11? But it provides even lower voltage, AFAIR?!

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