Topic: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 3)

[earmonger]

I only hope that over time I can develop as strong a bond with the M10 as I had with my R50.

Take it from a recovering minidisc user: You will. And sooner than you think.  Don't worry, your MZ-R50 is happy for you to go on with your life and find a new companion.

The PCM-M10 comes with Audio Studio 9LE sound editing software, which can probably do your splitting for you. Though I end up doing all mine on the unit, despite the half-dozen clicks to get there.

[jeffee]

D-50 = dedicated split button   

-Jeff

[Artstar]

D-50 = dedicated split button   

You're right! I just took another look at the unit having thought it was a T.Mark button but it's in fact a Divide button. Well there you go then. If you're not stealthing (which I managed to do with the PCM-D50 anyway), then the more expensive PCM-D50 is the way to go.

[illconditioned]

D-50 = dedicated split button   

You're right! I just took another look at the unit having thought it was a T.Mark button but it's in fact a Divide button. Well there you go then. If you're not stealthing (which I managed to do with the PCM-D50 anyway), then the more expensive PCM-D50 is the way to go.

For some reason, I have both recorders!


  Richard

[Artstar]

For some reason, I have both recorders!

You mean you don't know why? I have both because I needed something at the time of my MZ-RH1's death and bought the PCM-D50 in Japan back in June 2008. Then along came the PCM-M10 and it was the ideal size so I bought it while I was working in Vancouver in December 2009.

What's your excuse?

[Belexes]

I have both as well. D50 came out before the M10.  Always good to have a backup and I seem to favor the A/D flavor of the D50 a little more, but it's a bulky unit with the extended external mics.

[ArchivalAudio]

anyone using the Rechargeable high voltage 1.6V 2500mWh AA nickel-zinc in the M-10 ?

thread here:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=118840.0

at amazon here: http://www.amazon.com/PowerGenix-ZR-PGX1HRAA-4B-Charger-Rechargeable-Batteries/dp/B0029NZVZ0/ref=reg_hu-wl_item-added

other manufacturer links here
http://www.powergenix.com/applications.php http://www.powergenix.com/techhistory.php

seems like a great alternative to other types of batteries and cheap ta boot

--Ian

[it-goes-to-eleven]

seems like a great alternative to other types of batteries and cheap ta boot

What advantage do they have over the NiMH batteries that would justify experimenting with them and risking reliability?    NiMH are common, cheap, have extremely long runtimes in this app, generally predictable end of life characteristics, etc.

I have read that nickel-zinc batteries are more suited to high rate of discharge applications. What we do tends to be slow discharge.

[Geissler]

so what's the real-world battery life of the M10 on a standard pair of 2500mAh NiMH AAs?

[gmm6797]

so what's the real-world battery life of the M10 on a standard pair of 2500mAh NiMH AAs?

recording at 24/96 I filled a 16gb (7h 40m) card before the batteries died... but that was at home, not in the field

[willndmb]

so what's the real-world battery life of the M10 on a standard pair of 2500mAh NiMH AAs?

recording at 24/96 I filled a 16gb (7h 40m) card before the batteries died... but that was at home, not in the field

i'm on 8 hrs on the aa that came in the box and the meter hasn't dropped one bit
if the reports are true then we should get over 20hrs easy

[ArchivalAudio]

seems like a great alternative to other types of batteries and cheap ta boot

What advantage do they have over the NiMH batteries that would justify experimenting with them and risking reliability?    NiMH are common, cheap, have extremely long runtimes in this app, generally predictable end of life characteristics, etc.

I have read that nickel-zinc batteries are more suited to high rate of discharge applications. What we do tends to be slow discharge.

well My thoughts were that they start at a high voltage 1.6v rather than the 1.25v of most rechargeable's  which is less than straight-up Alkaline at 1.5v _ I just figured they would have  a longer run-time
if no one is using them that's fine
If and when I get a M-10 I'll probably get some  NI-Zn and see how they roll.
--Ian

[illconditioned]

seems like a great alternative to other types of batteries and cheap ta boot

What advantage do they have over the NiMH batteries that would justify experimenting with them and risking reliability?    NiMH are common, cheap, have extremely long runtimes in this app, generally predictable end of life characteristics, etc.

I have read that nickel-zinc batteries are more suited to high rate of discharge applications. What we do tends to be slow discharge.

well My thoughts were that they start at a high voltage 1.6v rather than the 1.25v of most rechargeable's  which is less than straight-up Alkaline at 1.5v _ I just figured they would have  a longer run-time
if no one is using them that's fine
If and when I get a M-10 I'll probably get some  NI-Zn and see how they roll.
--Ian

I would NOT recommend the NiZn unless you have a need for that extra voltage (flashlights, or other things that don't have voltage convertors in them might be likely candidates).  Both the Edirol and Sony flash recorders seem to be able to get enough out of the NiMH batteries (by voltage step-up inside), so why risk damaging them?


Now go ahead and buy a Sony rig and a pair of Countryman B3's.  You will not be disappointed...

  Richard

[George]

^ You showed security your gear 

I had to do the same thing once for a Iron Maiden concert at that shitty venue, Hammerstein Ballroom.  The security guy kept bugging me to empty my jacket pocket out, so I busted out my dat (pcm-m1) and passed it off as a walkman...he let me pass because everyone standing behind me started bitching.  Yeah, they had us standing outside in 20 F to pat us down....

[ArchivalAudio]

seems like a great alternative to other types of batteries and cheap ta boot

What advantage do they have over the NiMH batteries that would justify experimenting with them and risking reliability?    NiMH are common, cheap, have extremely long runtimes in this app, generally predictable end of life characteristics, etc.

I have read that nickel-zinc batteries are more suited to high rate of discharge applications. What we do tends to be slow discharge.

well My thoughts were that they start at a high voltage 1.6v rather than the 1.25v of most rechargeable's  which is less than straight-up Alkaline at 1.5v _ I just figured they would have  a longer run-time
if no one is using them that's fine
If and when I get a M-10 I'll probably get some  NI-Zn and see how they roll.
--Ian

I would NOT recommend the NiZn unless you have a need for that extra voltage (flashlights, or other things that don't have voltage convertors in them might be likely candidates).  Both the Edirol and Sony flash recorders seem to be able to get enough out of the NiMH batteries (by voltage step-up inside), so why risk damaging them?


Now go ahead and buy a Sony rig and a pair of Countryman B3's.  You will not be disappointed...

  Richard

thanx Richard
I want a M-10 /Littlebox combo but first I'll need to sell some gear.... but September is a busy family month visiting with our 1 month old little guy, I won't have time to get out gear and take pics to post to put in the YS.
but soon I hope I may get the chance - likely not before October