Topic: YAY (V3 content) :D

[Brian]

so my V3 just arrived.  it won't power up with either of the 6v batts i have.  they are fully charged.  what should i do?  i'm guessing the pin assignments for the v3 power cable are different than the ones on the 4pin on the 6v batts?  if so that would suck cause i'm horrible at soldering ...... can't even keep a steady hand to make a xlr cable

[Brian]

so to anwer my own question

the wires for the 4pins on my batteries are wired for the top 2 pins..... pins 1 and 4 i'm guessing?  looks like this:

@     @     where "@" = the soldered pins.   
   * *

the 4pin on my v3 power cable looks like this:    *       *
                                                                       @ @


guess i'm screwed for now

[Brian]

no, it's a power sonic 6v 7.2Ah SLA

[leegeddy]

you're not getting juice.

http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=2465.msg17719#msg17719

marc

[Brian]

yep that's what i figured. whoever wired these 6v's wired them as if they were 12vs.....soldered points on pins 1 and 4

DAMMIT!

[leegeddy]

yep that's what i figured. whoever wired these 6v's wired them as if they were 12vs.....soldered points on pins 1 and 4

DAMMIT!

hey, if you're interested, i'll rewire your cable as i did Moke's 6v. 

marc

[Tim]

dave ran on 12v's not 6v's... check the pin assignments

[dnsacks]

was dave the v3's previous owner?  If so, and it was run on 12 volt, the low voltage shut-off will need to be recalibrated as well, since I'd presume that 6 volts would be below the low voltage shut-off level for a 12 volt calibrated v3 (and the v3 wouldn't start/run)

[Tim]

yes, Brian bought Dave's V3...

[greenone]

Yeah, 6v is WAY below the 12v shutoff range. I think the 6v shutoff range is ~5.5v, so the 12v would likely be around 11. If that's the case, it's just popping the top off and twisting the variable resistor down - not tough at all. Definitely easier than soldering.

[Brian]

ok guys well this is just confusing now.......well sort of

Dave led me to believe the whole time that this was a 6v unit. i mean it says it is on the box and unit

yes, as i stated in my previous posts, the pin assigments on the  6v batteries' 4pin xlr's are wrong but they are right on the v3 power cable.  pins 2 and 3 are soldered on the power cable. pins 1 and 4 are soldered on the batteries so no matter what it's calibrated at the unit will never get juice with my current battery and battery cable configs.

so how can this in any way be a 12v V3???  the power cable is not wired for it.  then again i guess Dave could have wired his 12v's to pins 2 and 3.

either way some resoldering has to be done.  thanks for hte offer leegeddy,+T, but i think it's time i finally get this soldering stuff down.  if i can't i know i can get it done locally in St. Louis.

[Tim]

I never saw Dave use 6v's but I could be wrong on that... I know he carried 12v's for the tubes too. Like I said, I could be totally wrong, sorry Brian didn't mean to lead you astray!

[dnsacks]

Note -- a v3 calibrated to run @ 6 volts will run just fine on 12, it just won't show when the battery's running low, so it's entirely possible that you're good to go on that issue.

Good luck on the soldiering --

[Brian]

no need to apologize Tim.  if Dave used 12v, yet claimed to me it was of the 6v variety, then i just hope he recalibrated it and all i have to do is resolder the pin assignments on my 6v batts' 4pins.  

not a big deal at all really, even if i have to recalibrate.  however if i do need to recalibrate and resolder why would dave tell me it was a 6v V3.  i guess it doesn't really matter though

[Tim]

I'd call dave if I was you to make sure. Honest mistake I'm sure...

[Brian]

yeah maybe....it'a really not a big deal.  just appears i have to resolder the pins on my 6 volts to the correct pins anyways.  no biggie.  i'm just glad the damn thing is hear. and boy it really does look mint

jut have to get this shit done before 9/10.

thanks for help guys +t's all around.  marc,  your my last resort

[Tim]

told you, Dave takes better care of his gear than anyone I know... enjoy Brian!

 I hope ot have mine here sometime soon!

[Brian]

yes i see that underneath rick moranis

why did you get the 4s though

[Tim]

that's what he had, I;m buying a friends whole rig. 4's will be fine for me, great sounding venues out here and I'll be running up front anyway

as for Rick Moranis, I had a picture of Darth Vader and Joe W. posted this shot... it then dawned on me that I am more Rick Moranis than I am James Earl Jones

[Brian]

ahhh i see.  rick moranis is quite funny. however JEJ was great as mustafa in hte lion king


Brian

PS: get some 4vs and 41s   i'm gonna borrow a fellow board members 41s and make The Pageant's sound my bitch

[Tim]

no 4v's... never liked em. though the brother of the guy I'm buying these from has the 4v's if I ever wanted to try.

41's? Not necessary as we don't have any venues that sound any where near as shitty as The Pageant. I tape in good sounding small venues, the worst place is The Fillmore and I always go FOB there. No need for hypers in any other place!

[Brian]

oh well aren't you just so special   you guys are seriously spoiled with The Fox Theatre.  that was just some amazing sound being put out of those PA's.  every town should have a theatre just like it!

no hypers at redrocks?

[Tim]

no, definitely not at red rocks... subs or cards. Hypers make that phasing sound worse.. and really you're not that far away.

The Gothic sounds great too... though not as nice as The Fox. That place is easliy the best sounding indoor venue I've ever been in.

the mk41's are sweet caps, maybe next year... I need to save my money after this!

[Just Taper Mark from NC]

dave ran 6v,I bought the batteries

[Tim]

I'm an idiot... 

[Brian]

screw you tim!



so this thread could have been....oh...... 20 posts less

[F.O.Bean]

so wonder what the deal is

[Brian]

yeah don't worry about bean.  the air is thin in CO today

i just have to resolder my 6volt batts so i can use them with the V3. the person who made my 6v's used pins 1 and 4 instead of the standard, 2 and 3.

no big deal anymore really

[Tim]

I'm just padding my post count, I've got Moke in my sites

[Brian]

I'm just padding my post count, I've got Moke in my sites

i knew it

[Tim]

26 posts a day, there's no hope for you old man

[mirth]

Spaceballs is an awesome film.

[caymanreview]

Spaceballs is an awesome film.

definantly

[fobstl]

ahhh i see.  rick moranis is quite funny. however JEJ was great as mustafa in hte lion king


Brian

PS: get some 4vs and 41s   i'm gonna borrow a fellow board members 41s and make The Pageant's sound my bitch

Glad you are going to try the 41s at the Pageant. I think the hypers will be the way to go. Sucks that one of our main STL venues sounds like crap!

[Tim]

sucks that we lost the American Theatre for that place...

[fobstl]

sucks that we lost the American Theatre for that place...

Yeah, no doubt. I know someone that went to a wedding reception at the American recently. Said it was weird since it is kind of a dump with the lights turned up. It was a good place to see a show though.

By the way Tim, do you still need a Schoeps ORTF bar?

[Tim]

Saw some great shows in that place!

I could definitely use a bar Steve...

I'll email you!

[Dr.FOB]

The Mule @ The Pageant 10/21 will show them what it should sound like!
Hope to see ya down front.

[Kevin Straker]

so to anwer my own question

the wires for the 4pins on my batteries are wired for the top 2 pins..... pins 1 and 4 i'm guessing?  looks like this:

@     @     where "@" = the soldered pins.   
   * *

the 4pin on my v3 power cable looks like this:    *       *
                                                                       @ @

I just did this two days ago. The wires are indeed on pins 2 and 3 as in your lower diagram. Check the DIY section for plus and minus designations.  I can't remember off the top of my head.


guess i'm screwed for now

[Brian]

The Mule @ The Pageant 10/21 will show them what it should sound like!
Hope to see ya down front.

no actives. have fun though.....you'll be blocking the whole time while i'm standing comfortabley in front of the board only mere feet behind you

no point for fob at the pageant IMO.

[joeshambro]

problem fixed, a rum and coke for steady hand and a hearty 6v shock to my wrist, and brian's V3 is functional... on his way to test it out right now   

[F.O.Bean]

+T joe, good looks bro

[Brian]

hell yeah thanks again joe!  V3 works like a charm.  the blinky lights had me mezmorized  

decided to go balss out and push the thing as hot as possible.  lot of overs but the tape sounds nice.

what's funny is that i forgot my entire 6 volt system (batts, cable, charger) was all wired the same way. now i need to get a new 6v charger or resolder everything. hopefully the battery i have now will last through tonight.

brian

[F.O.Bean]

i dont have any tapes where i didnt clip atleast once

and IMO, they all sound phantsatic

push it hard brian

[boa]

sucks that we lost the American Theatre for that place...

Amen to that. I loved the vibe at The American Theater. Everyday I look at the venue from the SBC building a few blocks away...just waiting. patiently. The Pageant doesn't carry the same weight for me.

<grovel>I'm still looking for copies of any Black Crowes recordings from the American in STL; 07/30/92 & 07/31/92... Anyone ?</grovel>

[zhianosatch]

The Mule @ The Pageant 10/21 will show them what it should sound like!
Hope to see ya down front.

no actives. have fun though.....you'll be blocking the whole time while i'm standing comfortabley in front of the board only mere feet behind you

no point for fob at the pageant IMO.

DON'T SPORT THE SHIRT IF YOU CAN'T HACK IT

 

[Brian]

The Mule @ The Pageant 10/21 will show them what it should sound like!
Hope to see ya down front.

no actives. have fun though.....you'll be blocking the whole time while i'm standing comfortabley in front of the board only mere feet behind you

no point for fob at the pageant IMO.

DON'T SPORT THE SHIRT IF YOU CAN'T HACK IT

 

you misread ....... it will sound better where i'm gonna set up

*served*

[caymanreview]

there is no reason to go FOB at the pageant... you would just have to see it to know

[fobstl]

sucks that we lost the American Theatre for that place...

Amen to that. I loved the vibe at The American Theater. Everyday I look at the venue from the SBC building a few blocks away...just waiting. patiently. The Pageant doesn't carry the same weight for me.

<grovel>I'm still looking for copies of any Black Crowes recordings from the American in STL; 07/30/92 & 07/31/92... Anyone ?</grovel>

Hey Boa,
Good to see you on the taper section - the STL factor is growing on this list.
Also good to see you last night at Crazy Bowls and Oberweis.

[Brian]

me likey my new V3

[Brian]

backatcha and yes i did a two night run this weekend for it's maiden voyage!  XY cards FOB( for Brother's Past in St. Louis and hypers DINa for Bockman's Euphio in Columbia, MO.  some overs here and there so, yeah, pushed it real good and hard.....tapes sound very nice

[Brian]

moke you make an excellent point!  there were several times when my m1 meters would show an over but the V3 did not.  and because each clip i had on the V3 were due to transients(loud bass or drums) you can't hear 99% them on the tapes

nice bit on the tas700 meters.....wonder what other recorders' meters are like.

[Gordon]

so this thread made me plug in the v3 I got on loan.  I have 6v ecocharges as well as 12v.  the v3 is labeled 6v on the back.  it will not power up using either battery.  don't know ANYTHING about the pins etc but the xlr connecter looks the same as the one for my p1.      

[F.O.Bean]

are they charged

if so, check the pins where you plug the v3 power cord in, they may be touching

[Gordon]

EDIT

I figured it out.   for some reason when I plug the  cabel into  the v3 and srew it in tight it won't do anything.  well I unscrewed it and wigled it around and saw lights    but it will only power on and stay on while holding the cabel in kind of crooked.  so I asume (hope) it's the cabel and not the connection on the v3.     

[Gordon]

thanks +t y'all.  I'll take a look at it.

[Gordon]

On your power cable, at the V3 end is a switchcraft connector. Look inside the end of that connector, and you will see that the little male pin is split. You will likely need to carefully pry the contact apart slightly to reestablish solid contact.

looked inside the end and don't really see a male pin.  kind of looks hollow.   

[F.O.Bean]

that does not sound good, there should be 2 pins that are about an 1/8" apart, if there arent 2 pins, then something is seriosuly wrong bro

[Gordon]

in the v3 or the cable?  he said in the cabel.  there are two pins in the v3 part.

[F.O.Bean]

in the v3 i was talking

[F.O.Bean]

yep. Bean is right,... my bad! +T Bean!


I just dug out my extra power cord, and looked, and sure as shit,.....
I haven't disconnected my V3 since I bought it for this very reason (the pins). I rack mounted with everything plugged in about a year and a half ago, and haven't looked at it since then.

my apologies.

exactly what i did mok3, and i would never go back

rack mount that bitch and never look back

+T backatcha mok3

[Gordon]

well it's coming on a lot easier.  however when I screw it all the way in so it's tight it won't come on or stay on.  I'll keep working on it.  thanks again guys.  +t tomorrow  


nevermind.  I got it!  leaving the cabel on for good now.

[F.O.Bean]

no problem, i did this for jon merin at the moedown RIGHT before blues traveler came on, i just got a small flat head screwdriver, and VERY gently pried them apart a lil bit, it will do wonders

[Gordon]

hell ya.  480 > v3 here I come.  is it friday night yet??

[F.O.Bean]

hell ya.  480 > v3 here I come.  is it friday night yet??

youre gonna say WHOA, i LOVE this combo