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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2005, 12:39:39 AM »
checked the v3 jumpers, they were all on low position.
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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2005, 03:17:49 PM »
last weekend i got a bit tipsy while taping.  when i took out my bag this weekend i had the right hpf on 2, nothing changed on the left side and my sample rate was at 88.2 and i know for a fact that i started on 44.1.

i'm curious to find out what my recordings actually sound like.  should be interesting to say the least.


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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2005, 03:40:20 PM »
my sample rate was at 88.2 and i know for a fact that i started on 44.1.

i'm curious to find out what my recordings actually sound like.  should be interesting to say the least.

I did that once recording to my lappy, nothing but static.
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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2005, 04:30:12 PM »
I once ran ADK TLs>V3 with one mic on Figure 8, the other on hyper...not to mention I had the HPF2 on the Figure 8 mic....
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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2005, 07:36:32 PM »
the worst is when the v3 sat for a couple months and restores to factory settings, gets me scrambling everytime, im like 'OH FUCK'

then i look at my sample rate selection and its off :)
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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2005, 07:49:45 PM »
my preshow V3 checklist: (after lots of screwups)  ;D

1) mics plugged in?
2) Phantom on and seeing some pretty flashing lights on the level meter? 
3) 44.1 KHz?
4) ANSR off?
5) HPF centered?

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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2005, 07:53:03 PM »
my preshow V3 checklist: (after lots of screwups)  ;D

1) mics plugged in?
2) Phantom on and seeing some pretty flashing lights on the level meter? 
3) 44.1 KHz?
4) ANSR off?
5) HPF centered?

OK! Ready to roll!!!  :-*

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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2005, 09:18:42 AM »
at least not on inital listening. i ran the HPF for a bunch of stuff at 10klf, tracking out signal path right now. it was realy bassy at the show under the tent, so i threw it on a few seconds into the first song. it doesn't sound bad, but i can tell there's a good amount of low end missing from the tape. we'll see how the rest of the weekend turned out (this was the first show i taped) and hopefully i turned it off for most of the open air stuff...can't remember though ;)
well i finally took a listen.  there is definitely some low end info missing, but i'd have to say its not too bad.  I just have to crank the low end frequencies.  Track 2 sounds good tho!
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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2005, 02:13:42 PM »
but i can tell there's a good amount of low end missing from the tape

but there is a lack of low end, not a lot, but some

there is definitely some low end info missing, but i'd have to say its not too bad.

So, maybe I'm just reading these comments wrong.  As I read these comments, every one says something or other BUT...there's low end missing.  As if a reduction in low end was somehow unexpected.  It's an HPF, after all, right?

Doesn't seem quite right to me to say one dislikes the HPF after using it one time.  Seems it's not the V3s HPF that's disliked, but using an HPF - any HPF - in the specific circumstances described.
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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2005, 02:58:57 PM »
I've grown to really like it, but wish like crazy that hpf1 was 75hz@6dB. that would just be so ideal.

can't jumper it to get that roll-off??
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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2005, 04:10:05 PM »
 ???  True you can't set HPF1 for 75/6, but you can set HPF2 for 75Hz/6db rolloff via the jumpers.  So if you only want 75hz/6db it can be done, or are you saying you want 50hz/6db on HPF2 and 75/6db on HPF1?  If this is the case, then yes you're right, you can't configure to get both of those available at once.
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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2005, 04:23:33 PM »
but i can tell there's a good amount of low end missing from the tape

but there is a lack of low end, not a lot, but some

there is definitely some low end info missing, but i'd have to say its not too bad.

So, maybe I'm just reading these comments wrong. As I read these comments, every one says something or other BUT...there's low end missing. As if a reduction in low end was somehow unexpected. It's an HPF, after all, right?

Doesn't seem quite right to me to say one dislikes the HPF after using it one time. Seems it's not the V3s HPF that's disliked, but using an HPF - any HPF - in the specific circumstances described.

maybe it would be more fair to say i'm not pleased that i rolled off that much bass on these recordings.  i didn't realize that hpf1 was more severe than  hpf2, as i really only wanted a slight bass rolloff.  better?  :P
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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2005, 12:38:04 PM »
I've been using the HPF2 a ton since last Fall. I'm catching a lot of flack from other Panic tapers, but I really like how it sounds. If anyone wants to compare there were two of us running AKG 481 > V3 on Wednesday one row apart. Mine was with HPF2 and his was without:

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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2005, 04:02:54 PM »
I've been using the HPF2 a ton since last Fall. I'm catching a lot of flack from other Panic tapers, but I really like how it sounds. If anyone wants to compare there were two of us running AKG 481 > V3 on Wednesday one row apart. Mine was with HPF2 and his was without:

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Jeff I can't believe someone screwed around with your rig, that is messed up. I think I seriously would have went ape shit on "Smiley", crossing the line in a big way ...

I agree.  I'm not a huge fan of bass rolloff (although that is also situation-dependent), but screwing with someone's rig is definitely grounds for an immediate ass-kicking. 

One thing is for sure, if you think bass rolloff is needed, it is better to do it on the fly (if you like the settings on your mic/pre/whatever) than in post.  I've noticed more artifacts from EQ'ing in post than from using rolloff at the show.

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Re: not a real big fan of V3's HPF1...
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2005, 03:57:44 AM »
guy's, it's smiley... I know jeff and he's a good guy but fighting smiley would not be advised

if you've never taped a band with a long and storied taper history then you're probably not going to get it but no one is kicking smiley's ass for anything 8)
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