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Gear / Technical Help => Post-Processing, Computer / Streaming / Internet Devices & Related Activity => Topic started by: ts on May 14, 2023, 11:31:25 AM
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Been using CD Wav for splitting tracks for years. All of a sudden it won't open certain files. Gives a bad format warning. I can't find my original install file. I was going to try reinstalling it. I like this program because of its extreme ease of use. So something simple like CDwav would be great or if anyone has an old installer file. Thanks.
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got a clean copy of CD Wave Editor V1.98
Here's a WeTransfer
https://we.tl/t-OIZrJGW3wf
Change the (.exz) suffix to (.exe) and run
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Been using CD Wav for splitting tracks for years. All of a sudden it won't open certain files. Gives a bad format warning. I can't find my original install file. I was going to try reinstalling it. I like this program because of its extreme ease of use. So something simple like CDwav would be great or if anyone has an old installer file. Thanks.
You can download from here:
http://www.milosoftware.com/en/index.php?body=cdwave.php
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Been using CD Wav for splitting tracks for years. All of a sudden it won't open certain files. Gives a bad format warning. I can't find my original install file. I was going to try reinstalling it. I like this program because of its extreme ease of use. So something simple like CDwav would be great or if anyone has an old installer file. Thanks.
You might also check to see if the files it won't open are 32 bit float. I had an issue with Traders Little Helper and realized that files it wouldn't open were 32 bit float. Had to re-export them as 24 or 16 bit.
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Thanks everyone! I'll try re installing. Also, these are not 32 bit float. Funny, thing is some will open, others will not. The one that will not open are no different than those that will. Different show of course, but all 24 bit PCM wavs.
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Thanks everyone! I'll try re installing. Also, these are not 32 bit float. Funny, thing is some will open, others will not. The one that will not open are no different than those that will. Different show of course, but all 24 bit PCM wavs.
How big are the WAV files that won't open?
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Thanks everyone! I'll try re installing. Also, these are not 32 bit float. Funny, thing is some will open, others will not. The one that will not open are no different than those that will. Different show of course, but all 24 bit PCM wavs.
How big are the WAV files that won't open?
A little less than 2GB. At first I thought I was forgetting to save any work I was doing. That wasn't it. Funny thing is I can open the file in cdwave before doing any DSP. I use Audition.
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Thanks everyone! I'll try re installing. Also, these are not 32 bit float. Funny, thing is some will open, others will not. The one that will not open are no different than those that will. Different show of course, but all 24 bit PCM wavs.
How big are the WAV files that won't open?
A little less than 2GB. At first I thought I was forgetting to save any work I was doing. That wasn't it. Funny thing is I can open the file in cdwave before doing any DSP. I use Audition.
This happened to me a while back when I did a reinstall of some software including CD Wave Editor on a new to me desktop. I couldn't get CD Wave to open a couple of wav files from Wavelab and I finally realized Wavelab had reset the save format to ADPCM instead of PCM for some reason. Check your output format in Audition.
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Still no good. Only thing I can think of is Windows did an update and the files aren't saving properly? The file I'm having issues opening in cdwave was after the update and after processing in Audition. I can open any file before the update. So something changed in the way the file is being saved in Audition since the update.
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Still no good. Only thing I can think of is Widows did an update and the files aren't saving properly? The file I'm having issues opening in cdwave was after the update. I can open any file before the update. So something changed in the way the file is being saved in Audition since the update.
if you want to link a problematic file id be happy to try opening it on my machines
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Still no good. Only thing I can think of is Widows did an update and the files aren't saving properly? The file I'm having issues opening in cdwave was after the update. I can open any file before the update. So something changed in the way the file is being saved in Audition since the update.
Make sure it hasn't changed the suffix from .wav to something else. Audacity defaults to .aiff for instance.
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Still no good. Only thing I can think of is Widows did an update and the files aren't saving properly? The file I'm having issues opening in cdwave was after the update. I can open any file before the update. So something changed in the way the file is being saved in Audition since the update.
A possible thing to try is open the file in Audition and then instead of simply hitting "Save", try "Save As" and specify 16 bit or 24 bit.
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In my experience Audtion (3.0 for me) always opens 24-bit files as 32-bit. I've never tried to output 24-bit files from Audition though, I leave my original masters as native 24/whatever and my edited files end up as 16/44.1. In 3.0 I don't even see an option to convert to 24-bit.
(https://i.imgur.com/IUmXdDA.png)
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Here's an attachment of the file info. The error message in cdwave is: "Bad Format. Only PCM format supported." As you can see in the file, this is PCM. Again, I'm using Audition 3.0. and I am saving as Windows PCM
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It looks to be a 32 bit file and I would guess that is your issue.
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I would agree!
It looks to be a 32 bit file and I would guess that is your issue.
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Select one of your saved files that was output from Audition that you think is 24bit. Right click on it and open Properties. In the details it will tell you if what the file is being saved as.
It looks like you think you are saving as 24 bit but are actually saving as 32bit.
It's been years since I used Audition so I'm not much help on how to fix it but at least you can narrow down your issue.
Also, in Wavelab which I use for almost all my editing - in the format selection box Windows PCM is actually ADPCM format. There's a separate selection called just PCM that saves WAV containers. Check your selections and try a few different things then go back and check the properties of the saved file until it's what you are looking for.
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Here I have a file I recorded Saturday on a DR-680mkII, a 24-bit/48kHz file. Then all I did was open it in Adobe Audition 3.0 and save a copy. The saved file is now 32-bit floating. AA3.0 automatically does that with any 24-bit upon opening, converts it to 32-bit floating.
(https://i.imgur.com/6Ubxn1b.png)
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So when you open the file it becomes 32-bit floating, that becomes the default when you turn around to save it. Looks like you have to use the "Options" under Save As to get 24-bit.
(https://i.imgur.com/x3yWbMh.png)
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Hey, it worked. I've been using AA3.0 for probably a dozen years with 24-bit files and just learned this. I tried opening the "AA3" file (32-bit floating) in CD Wave and got the error, the "24" file opened fine.
(https://i.imgur.com/OnwNtja.png)
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Thats it, for some reason since the windows update, every is now saving in 32bit. Prior to the update everything saved in 24bit, which is what the original recordings are in. :shrug: So how do I get AA 3.0 to go back to the way it was?
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Thats it, for some reason since the windows update, every is now saving in 32bit. Prior to the update everything saved in 24bit, which is what the original recordings are in. :shrug: So how do I get AA 3.0 to go back to the way it was?
I believe AA3 always opened 24 bit in 32 bit float (as Jeff Lester pointed out earlier). My AA3 no longer functions but when I did use it and started recording in 24 bit, I was creating 16/44.1 edits for CD's and seeding. It was only when I started seeding at Lossless Legs (where folks seem to gravitate towards 24 bit) that I ran into "bad format" responses from Traders Little Helper when trying to create flac files. It took me awhile to figure out that everything needed to be exported as 24 bit if that's what I wanted to keep.
I'm trying to remember if I exported a 24 bit file as 24 bit from AA3 - did AA3 keep 24 bit rather than opening in 32 bit float. I think that AA3 does that conversion to 32 bit float in order to give more headroom during editing.
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I've only ever used audition. Before that cool edit. In AA3 I import in 24/48, which is what I record at. AA processes in 32bit and when I export/save, it saves back in 24bit. Always been that way. I'm still blaming this "new feature" on this last windows update. So when I get a chance I'll see if I can resample to 24bit from 32. I've never had to that before now. Or I can resample down to 16, I'm sure.
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You shouldn't have to resample. As Jeff mentioned above, you need to make sure that when you go to save the file in AA3, on the Save As box click "Options" at the very bottom, then make sure under "Format 32 bit data as" select > "24-bit packed int (type 1, 24-bit)".
It is normal for AA3 to open your 24-bit WAVs as "32-bit integer float", but something triggered your saving options (Windows update or otherwise) and likely needs to be reset.
I, too, have been using AA3 for 10-12 years on a Win 10 machine and had no issue transferring shows last month. I also opened the edited WAVs directly in CD Wave afterwards for tracking, so the workflow was the same as yours.
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Alright, all good. I wish I spent some time reading Jeff's posts. I was a little distracted yesterday. Thanks audball for pointing that out. I still think that windows update did something. I am certain I did not go into options and change save as to 32 bit. :smash:
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^ I was curious as to why I never encountered an issue. Maybe it was something I had to select way back and forgot about it. :shrug:
Hopefully yours remains after switching back. It's good to know where to look if the issue ever arises.
Not to derail, but has anyone tried running AA3 on Windows 11?