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Recover deleted files from a JB3?
« on: November 05, 2006, 06:41:49 PM »
Has anybody successfully recovered deleted files from a JB3?

Please let me know how if you can. I was busted last night & had files deleted by security!!

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Re: Recover deleted files from a JB3?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2006, 03:51:40 AM »
Since it's a harddrive inside it should be as possible as recovering lost material from a regular harddrive, which is possible. You will probably need to open your JB3 though. You could try something like this first: http://www.restorer2000.com/ or maybe this: http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Utilities/Backup_and_Copy_Utilities/USB_mp3_Player_Songs_Recovery.html
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Re: Recover deleted files from a JB3?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2006, 06:58:41 PM »
Thanks for the advice but with further reading I have found that these types of recovery software only work if the drive is assigned a Drive Letter by Windows. This is not possible with a JB3 as explained at nomadness.com so it looks like I have lost it, but heres the info if anyone else is curious.

Can the NJB3 appear as a drive letter, mass storage device etc.?

It cannot appear as a drive letter, similar to how a mass storage device appears with driverless support.

There are several applications which will allow you to view the Nomad as a device in Windows Explorer, but it's important to understand this will not allow you to: run applications, access the Nomad through applications e.g. Microsoft Word, and will also require that you install drivers first. A list of applications that allow you to view the Nomad as a device follow, note these are repeated elsewhere in the FAQ, with download links, information etc.:

Notmad Explorer - Arguably the best product available, but shareware.
Microsoft's Digital Media Edition - Free, but the functionality is extremely limited.
Nomad Explorer - This shipped with some Zens, and was available for a short time as a download, but has been pulled for download from Creative's site due to issues and was never replaced.
Creative File Manager 2 - principally designed for data files.

Note, there are no 3rd party firmware or hacks that will allow the drive letter and/or driverless functionality, and Creative have not mentioned any plans to this effect either.

Also note, even if this functionality were added it would fundamentally change the way the device works. If the Music Library based on tag data were to remain it would necessitate that everytime files were added a scan of the disk would be required taking a relatively large amount of time to check what files were present and to add the tag data. If the Music Library were to be removed then the device it would have to be navigated by folders and files instead, which would not be liked by a large number of users.

If drive letter support is the most important feature for you then check the MuVo and MuVo² range of players which have this, and use folder and file navigation.

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Re: Recover deleted files from a JB3?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2006, 06:11:04 AM »
Well, depending on how desperate you are you could always open your jb3 and remove the harddrive (temporarily) to access through other means and thus recover your lost recording. Here's a guide on how to remove the harddrive (actually how to change drive): http://www.nomadness.net/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=23
It's not that hard...

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Re: Recover deleted files from a JB3?
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2006, 07:08:49 AM »
Well, depending on how desperate you are you could always open your jb3 and remove the harddrive (temporarily) to access through other means and thus recover your lost recording. Here's a guide on how to remove the harddrive (actually how to change drive): http://www.nomadness.net/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=23
It's not that hard...

Sorry, but that's not too easy either. The NJB3 uses some kind of specific file format so the disk cannot be read by computers even if it is connected straight to the computer. In theory it could be possible to find or make software/drivers to read this file format but I haven't heard that anybody would have done it successfully.

I wish you luck but I have been there myself without success so I wouldn't get my hopes up...

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Re: Recover deleted files from a JB3?
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2006, 02:31:08 PM »
Sorry, but that's not too easy either. The NJB3 uses some kind of specific file format so the disk cannot be read by computers even if it is connected straight to the computer. In theory it could be possible to find or make software/drivers to read this file format but I haven't heard that anybody would have done it successfully.

Yes, that does make it harder.... hmm...

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Re: Recover deleted files from a JB3?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2006, 10:50:18 AM »

Sorry, but that's not too easy either. The NJB3 uses some kind of specific file format so the disk cannot be read by computers even if it is connected straight to the computer. In theory it could be possible to find or make software/drivers to read this file format but I haven't heard that anybody would have done it successfully.

I wish you luck but I have been there myself without success so I wouldn't get my hopes up...

So if you have serious data recovery software on your machine....I do....then you still won't see the file set??

I have been able to bring back linux shares on Windows machines, so I wonder if it would work with the JB3
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