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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #75 on: April 02, 2018, 10:42:41 AM »
So you sold your R-05 and bought an R-07 instead? Why  ???

Was looking for a stealth-recorder... but it turns out that it is not a upgrade!

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I still don't get it. R-05 is not a stealth recorder?

R-05 is tiny......

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #76 on: April 03, 2018, 07:09:18 AM »
Exactly. Perfect stealth recorder. I have a couple of them.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #77 on: April 03, 2018, 07:27:28 PM »
So you sold your R-05 and bought an R-07 instead? Why  ???

Was looking for a stealth-recorder... but it turns out that it is not a upgrade!

 :banging head:

Could you upload a sample recording with the built-in mics? Thanks

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #78 on: April 03, 2018, 07:31:27 PM »
Another video example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIoGjWOhzSU

That shows that the R-07 is not a proffesional device.  :(

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #79 on: April 04, 2018, 08:14:10 AM »
Another video example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIoGjWOhzSU

That shows that the R-07 is not a proffesional device.  :(

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #80 on: April 04, 2018, 08:31:08 AM »
Another video example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIoGjWOhzSU

That shows that the R-07 is not a proffesional device.  :(

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The user changed the link. Here is the new one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BrQe90beg4

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #81 on: April 04, 2018, 09:09:12 AM »

The user changed the link. Here is the new one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BrQe90beg4

The R-05 and R-07 are very similar. Decent microphones as expected but nothing spectacular. The iPhone sucks compared to both, though.

If internals are that important to you I think you should consider another device.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #82 on: April 04, 2018, 09:19:52 AM »

The user changed the link. Here is the new one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BrQe90beg4

The R-05 and R-07 are very similar. Decent microphones as expected but nothing spectacular. The iPhone sucks compared to both, though.

If internals are that important to you I think you should consider another device.

What do you recommend me? Thanks!

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #83 on: April 04, 2018, 01:53:16 PM »
If internals are that important to you I think you should consider another device.

What do you recommend me? Thanks!

Sorry, I never use internals. I prefer external microphones. I really think there are others at TS that can answer your question better than me.

You didn't get enough info in the topic you started?

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« Last Edit: April 05, 2018, 04:59:39 AM by TheMetalist »
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #84 on: April 04, 2018, 01:53:45 PM »

The user changed the link. Here is the new one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BrQe90beg4

The R-05 and R-07 are very similar. Decent microphones as expected but nothing spectacular. The iPhone sucks compared to both, though.

If internals are that important to you I think you should consider another device.

What do you recommend me? Thanks!

It depends on your budget and what you want to record. The internal mics on the Sony PCM-D100 are extremely good. I've used it for nature recordings and acoustic piano with excellent results.

But for a budget recorder, I think the Tascam DR-05 does an admirable job with its internals.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #85 on: April 04, 2018, 10:35:19 PM »
Another video example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIoGjWOhzSU

That shows that the R-07 is not a proffesional device.  :(

I don't know that any of the handheld recorders can really be considered a "professional device."  Maybe the Sony D100, but that might be it, and then only arguably.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #86 on: April 06, 2018, 05:55:39 PM »
More comparisons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFe7xOGqNVY

What do you think?

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #87 on: April 07, 2018, 04:47:19 AM »
I think we can agree that the internal microphones sucks.

Now I want to know more about its functions and overall quality.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #88 on: April 07, 2018, 04:43:22 PM »
I think we can agree that the internal microphones sucks.

Now I want to know more about its functions and overall quality.

I am not really interested in the internal mics, but I think it would be more accurate to say that in the You Tube video, for the type of music and instrumentation being recorded, as well as the placement of the decks (mics) that cardioid mics perhaps sound better (or maybe different is more accurate) than omni-directional mics. I didn't think either sounded bad in that type of regulated environment, but comparing decks with 2 different mic patterns is not any way to judge the decks or their internal mics or their inherent limitations.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #89 on: April 07, 2018, 10:40:41 PM »
You cannot make a worthwhile stereo recording with closely-spaced omni mics.  The M10 is a prime example - no matter how good the mic capsules might be in terms of frequency response and noise and distortion, the close spacing means that low frequencies tend to become mono and appear at the centre of the image, and high frequencies tend to move more to the sides (but not far).  So the whole stereo image is frequency-skewed.  Years ago I posted methods of trying to correct this in post production using certain plugins, but at best you are attempting to make a silk purse from a sow's ear, unless you attach little or no importance to the stereo image.

If the R-07 has omni mics then forget it for stereo recordings.  Its stereo image will sound as bad as the M10 (and compared to the M10 is likely to be inferior in terms of frequency response etc).

 

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