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Title: pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: DaryanLenz on December 07, 2002, 11:07:45 PM
So I was thinking about putting a mp2 in front of the ad1k to go with my mbho's?  Any thoughts about whether the difference would be a noticeable improvement in sound?

Thanks

Daryan
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: hippies on December 08, 2002, 12:46:06 AM
hard to say with the MBHOs...best thing to do is try it out...
only you can be the final judge...

fellow Wisco Taper ran MBHOs> MP-2> AD2K for a couple years...
can't say it was ever my favorite setup, but it's all up to personal opinion anyway...

i run MP-2 in front of my MME, but that's with Neumann 140s...
may be a totally different deal with 1K and MBHOs...

TRY IT!...


 8)
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: jpschust on December 08, 2002, 12:22:05 PM
When you test it, make sure to change the dipswitches... you want to turn off the pre in the adk completely to do an accurate test.
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: creekfreak on December 08, 2002, 12:27:21 PM
I ran an MP-2-->SBM-1 with my MBHO's (before I got my schoeps). The mp-2 can add some nice warmth to a recording, but I found the bottom end to be sloppy, a lot of people like the transformer sound of the mop-2
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: phriendlyguy on December 08, 2002, 01:19:44 PM
here we go again jonny.  V2>AD1000, best combo out there right now.  dont let jonny tell you any different. HAHA  a pre in front of the 1000 is nice but i dont know if the mp2 is the right choice.  might make it a bit sloppy, and boomy.  get a V2.  i agree with creekfreak on the slop factor.
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: jpschust on December 08, 2002, 02:14:19 PM
Let me clarify ry's remark about the v2... ive listened to a shit ton of tapes now with v2's in em.  i dislike small diaphragm neumanns with the v2.  I know nothin about hte mbhos :-)
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: creekfreak on December 08, 2002, 09:34:14 PM
The Mbho's are very good mics for the money, great clarity and very clean highs, not much on the low end hence the reason I got rid of them and upgraded to some schoeps, same upper end clarity with warm, detailed bass. I ran my V2 with the MBHO's, sounded nice when combined with my modsbm-1. But right now my schoeps and mini-me sound pretty damn good.
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: hippies on December 08, 2002, 10:54:23 PM
here we go again jonny.  V2>AD1000, best combo out there right now.  dont let jonny tell you any different. HAHA  a pre in front of the 1000 is nice but i dont know if the mp2 is the right choice.  might make it a bit sloppy, and boomy.  get a V2.  i agree with creekfreak on the slop factor.

definately can't agree with V2> AD1K as best goin' right now...
shit son, you ain't even in 24 Bit-land yet!...=)

just kiddin'...
what mics ya runnin' with V2> 1K phriendly?...

also havta agree with jonny...not a fan of V2 w/ small diaphram Neumanns...they need a lil help "warmth wise" to bring out that Neumann sound...

hence the reason i run MP-2 in front of MME...

and a Heads Up:

PACKERS are gettin' SPANKED!...
just too bad it's the Vikes doin' it not Da Bears...   :'(

only end of 3rd Qtr though...
plenty of time for Favre to wake up...hehe...
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: jpschust on December 09, 2002, 12:06:32 AM
the packers really arent that good, its just they play in a division of shitty teams... ok back to crying over my chargers
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: phriendlyguy on December 09, 2002, 04:20:01 AM
runnin the 140s hippies.  thats why jonny and i always disagree on that subject.  love the sound.  we did do a 140>V3 @2448>G3 the other night, but its all so good sounding now, i dont know whats best.  just representing team neumann.  
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: Bri on December 09, 2002, 09:08:04 AM
I am working on making a 2 channel mic pre using 2 Neve 33114s. Althought they are 24v, I am trying to make a system to power them off 1 12v. It's gonna be a big thing to lug, but will be interesting to put infront of the 1000 ro for m home studio!

bri
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: jpschust on December 09, 2002, 09:27:02 AM
Bri, dont you have a job?  Oh and the answer when you ask that back to me is... no :-)
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: Bri on December 09, 2002, 09:33:59 AM
t34M Schoeps is a full time job! I'd love to here the 140's through these!

Bri
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: jpschust on December 09, 2002, 09:37:28 AM
to bring this back to topic, what do you think the mbhos would sound like through this?
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: hippies on December 09, 2002, 02:32:38 PM
runnin the 140s hippies.  thats why jonny and i always disagree on that subject.  love the sound.  we did do a 140>V3 @2448>G3 the other night, but its all so good sounding now, i dont know whats best.  just representing team neumann.  

right on phriendly...Team Neumann it is...although i see we may be losing an Alum?...take a look over on the Yard Sale board...

well, at least he's not buying Shempz...hehe...



 8)
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: jpschust on December 09, 2002, 02:35:14 PM
ill always be a fan of the neumanns. and its not like im dying!
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: DaryanLenz on December 09, 2002, 03:55:14 PM
So anyway, has anyone actually, well here at least, run MBHO's with an mp2?  I think I need a little umph in my low end, so that was why I was asking about a transformer based pre!  Please don't suggest I get different mics either, I love what I got...or at least until I get score a pair of u89's!

Daryan
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: phriendlyguy on December 09, 2002, 04:42:49 PM
i think jonnys a fool for doing so, i would take out a loan before i sold my gear.  shit i'll sell a kidney.  how about a good wife, anyone want her?  just kidding.  props to jonny for going after what he wants at all cost.
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: creekfreak on December 09, 2002, 05:36:46 PM
I ran MBHO's with an Mp-2. The MBHO's really don't have much bass and what they did have was made even more sloppy by the mp-2. Don't look for the mp-2 to give you better bass with the MBHO's.
Title: Re:pre in front of an ad1k?
Post by: Marc Nutter on December 10, 2002, 11:55:47 AM
I have a good sample for you're if interested.
SCI 2/19/00 Denver Fillmore
Set I 603a/200>V2>1000 and set II Schoeps 64v>same.
I have another copy of the show from the same mic stand with the same mics into an MP-2/adc-20

These make for an interesting listen although there is no perfect a/b comparison in the little less.

Happy Recording Everybody!

Marc