Topic: Probably a dumb question (dead rats)

[vegeta_ban]

Should these be used over a normal windsreen or can they go directly on the mics? I'm thinking of either buying some from the ts member that makes them in the retail forum or testing out my DIY skills (possibly tie dye them  ?)

I would use them over my telefunkens, nak 100/300 CP-1/2/3/4 capsules, and various zoom stuff for back up.

I saw the DIY blimp thread with the egg canvas from that it looks like i could use my normal screens too inside the egg thing.

[JimmieC]

Tbrown4's deadrats goes over your windscreens. When ordering, let him know which windscreens you have and he him make them to the dimensions of the windscreen.

[vanark]

Over the windscreens.

[Church-Audio]

Over the windscreens my tests show that they Are almost 50% more effective if there are internal windscreens. I discovered that if you just put dead rats on a mic with out some distance from the capsuke dead rats were not that effective but if you increased the distance by using a frame or simply by using a windscreen the wind protection was obviously much better. 

[vegeta_ban]

Cool thanks, had no idea.

[F.O.Bean]

I've been using big ass shures  and dead rats and the bigass shures are much better at blocking wind noise

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I've been using big ass shures  and dead rats and the bigass shures are much better at blocking wind noise

not sure I agree with that, but there you go...

[adrianf74]

I think ANY BIG ASS windscreen between a capsule and dead rat/muppet will help. 

Even a small windscreen (like the Shure locking ones) on my 853's get a big round of help from my dead rats.  I'd be DEAD without them sometimes.

[Gutbucket]

Rats need airspace underneath them to work optimally and a foam or basket screen provides a uniform airspace between the fur and the capsule.  It's best to think of them as secondary line of defense when more protection is required beyond what your foam or basket screen would provide alone.  However, using them by themselves without a screen underneath underneath is better than nothing if that's all you have. 

[John Willett]

Wind protection is simply down to the volume of still air around the microphone - this is why basket windshields are so good.

The larger the volume the better the protection.

The furry Windjammers are just there to take the energy out of the wind in windy conditions before the wind reaches the basket.

If you use a foam windshield on a mic. *inside* a basket windshield, you are actually making the wind protection *worse* as you are reducing the volume of air in the basket.

A furry Windjammer on its own does very little in wind protection - it needs the basket to give teh space.