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Offline EarlyMorningRain

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Re: a good flash drive?
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2008, 10:04:34 PM »
the iRivers can be modded to use CF cards, check this thread if you want.
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,95239.0.html

Even if this was an issue (being flash based or not), the JB3 is out of the question then too.
(not saying one couldn't mod one of those to use a CF card......)

If you can find a clean iriver H120/H140 you'd be all set. 

It's also small (ie. pocket-sized). 

edit:  oh, its not flash, its HDD-based.

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Re: a good flash drive?
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2008, 11:13:20 PM »
Has anyone used the  Olympus LS-10 and the  Marantz PMD620?  I'm interested in knowing more about the two of these.  The reviews of both were good but I am wonderng about how they stand up to what we use them for. 
Normal: Nakamichi CM-700's >> SD 744T (or) Sony PCM-M10
Normal: Crown CM-700's >> SD 302 >> SD 744T
Fun times: 3 Crown CM-700's >> SD 302 >> SD744T + 2 Nakamichi CM-700's >> SD744T
Stealth: CA-14c >> CA 9200 >> Edirol R-09HR
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Re: a good flash drive?
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2008, 01:37:18 AM »
the iRivers can be modded to use CF cards, check this thread if you want.
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,95239.0.html

Even if this was an issue (being flash based or not), the JB3 is out of the question then too.
(not saying one couldn't mod one of those to use a CF card......)

If you can find a clean iriver H120/H140 you'd be all set. 

It's also small (ie. pocket-sized). 

edit:  oh, its not flash, its HDD-based.

The analog ins/gain stage on that type of recorder are not that good.  I would suggest either Edirol R09 or Sony PCM-D50.

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Re: a good flash drive?
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2008, 07:52:17 PM »
I don't think they have digital ins, so the analoge in would be important.  Not to mention using it as an aid in transfering cassettes.  Which machine are you referring to?  I haven't heard of anyone using the Olympus and the review I read seemed pretty postitive.  I'm sure the Sony would be good, I've depended on Sonys ever since I started recording live.

My friend is telling me that hands down the marantz is the best one but the review I read was very critical about the access door on the bottom of the unit.  I would love feedback from real users like people on this site that ues them for the same thing I will be using it for...
Normal: Nakamichi CM-700's >> SD 744T (or) Sony PCM-M10
Normal: Crown CM-700's >> SD 302 >> SD 744T
Fun times: 3 Crown CM-700's >> SD 302 >> SD744T + 2 Nakamichi CM-700's >> SD744T
Stealth: CA-14c >> CA 9200 >> Edirol R-09HR
Ultra stealth: AudioReality >> AudioReality battery box >> Edirol R-09HR
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Re: a good flash drive?
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2008, 09:55:41 AM »
Has anyone used the  Olympus LS-10 and the  Marantz PMD620?  I'm interested in knowing more about the two of these.  The reviews of both were good but I am wonderng about how they stand up to what we use them for. 

Use the search function. There are lots of posts here with plenty of user verdicts.
Bottom line: LS-10 and PMD620 are OK, but with their current pricepoint, R-09HR provides much better value for money and has lower self-noise.
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Re: a good flash drive?
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2008, 09:11:54 AM »
Thanks.  I got my friend started with an R-09 and it makes nice recordings.  I just wish you could turn of the lights!  I'm also not to happy with the lack of digital I/O.
Normal: Nakamichi CM-700's >> SD 744T (or) Sony PCM-M10
Normal: Crown CM-700's >> SD 302 >> SD 744T
Fun times: 3 Crown CM-700's >> SD 302 >> SD744T + 2 Nakamichi CM-700's >> SD744T
Stealth: CA-14c >> CA 9200 >> Edirol R-09HR
Ultra stealth: AudioReality >> AudioReality battery box >> Edirol R-09HR
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Re: a good flash drive?
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2008, 09:15:34 AM »
Has anyone used the  Olympus LS-10 and the  Marantz PMD620?  I'm interested in knowing more about the two of these.  The reviews of both were good but I am wonderng about how they stand up to what we use them for. 

Use the search function. There are lots of posts here with plenty of user verdicts.
Bottom line: LS-10 and PMD620 are OK, but with their current pricepoint, R-09HR provides much better value for money and has lower self-noise.

I don't know about the LS-10, but I don’t think that is a particularly fair assessment of the PMD620.  For starters, the 620 is going for $299 whereas the R09HR is going for $335 (lowest prices I saw from reputable dealers in an admittedly quick online search). 

In terms of noise, the R09HR is probably a bit quieter, but the 620 is probably less noisy than other recorders in the class (including the R09, DR-1, and MT2).  I say “probably” because I have yet to see any real comparisons, or even measurements at typical recording levels (which may be important given the often non-linear relationship between gain and noise).  In any event, the self-noise of the 620 is sufficiently low for most any live music recording.

I would give an edge to the 620 for design/layout, ease of use, plug in power voltage, and battery life and to the R09HR for offering sampling frequencies above 48K. 

If high sampling rates are necessary, it is a no-brainer.  But if not, I fail to see how the R09HR is a “much better value”.  Of course, to each his own and YMMV and whatnot! :)

P.S.  nak700s: I haven’t had any problems with the SD access door.  Like any of these things, I wouldn’t manhandle it, but with a little care, it should be no problem…EDIT TO ADD:  As for digital in/out, here is a pretty good list of recorders with digi-in (http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,114653.0.html).  Your options, at least at the low end of the price spectrum, are pretty limited in this regard.
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Re: a good flash drive?
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2008, 09:38:02 AM »
I got my friend started with an R-09 and it makes nice recordings.  I just wish you could turn of the lights! 

FYI - you can turn off that red record light with the latest firmware

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Re: a good flash drive?
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2008, 08:15:40 PM »
Thanks.  I just emailed my friend to tell him about that. ;D
Normal: Nakamichi CM-700's >> SD 744T (or) Sony PCM-M10
Normal: Crown CM-700's >> SD 302 >> SD 744T
Fun times: 3 Crown CM-700's >> SD 302 >> SD744T + 2 Nakamichi CM-700's >> SD744T
Stealth: CA-14c >> CA 9200 >> Edirol R-09HR
Ultra stealth: AudioReality >> AudioReality battery box >> Edirol R-09HR
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Re: a good flash drive?
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2008, 10:21:51 PM »
Has anyone used the  Olympus LS-10 and the  Marantz PMD620?  I'm interested in knowing more about the two of these.  The reviews of both were good but I am wonderng about how they stand up to what we use them for. 


I use the PMD620 on occasion and have been quite happy with it.  Some samples...

http://www.archive.org/details/ragbirds2008-08-02.flac16

http://www.archive.org/details/gsbg2008-08-02.flac16


And a couple discrete pulls at DIME w/samples

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=196502&page=0#startcomments

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?returnto=%2Faccount-cp.php&id=209976

 
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Sony PCM-M10, Tascam DR-70D, Sound Devices MixPre 6

Panasonic Lumix ZS3

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Re: a good flash drive?
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2008, 06:48:16 AM »

I don't know about the LS-10, but I don’t think that is a particularly fair assessment of the PMD620.  For starters, the 620 is going for $299 whereas the R09HR is going for $335 (lowest prices I saw from reputable dealers in an admittedly quick online search). 

I would give an edge to the 620 for design/layout, ease of use, plug in power voltage, and battery life and to the R09HR for offering sampling frequencies above 48K. 


Oh, i didn't know that the 620 dropped so much! Last time I checked, the R-09HR was the cheaper one around my parts. That makes it a good bargain, and I'll bow for aaronji's first hand experience. Just make your research here before pulling the trigger...
Mics: A-51s LE, CK 930, Line Audo CM3, AT853Rx (hc,c,sc),  ECM 121, ECM 909A
Pres: Tinybox, CA-9100, UA5 wmod
Recorders: M10, H116 (CF mod), H340, NJB3
Gearbag: High Sierra Corkscrew
MD transfers: MZ-RH1. Tape transfers: Nak DR-1
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