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Title: Browser Showdown
Post by: bagtagsell on March 29, 2004, 02:02:20 AM
Im feeling very computerish this weekend.  Lets get a sound in on the best browsers out there.  I'll start.

IE exploer 5.0 ;)
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: Sean Gallemore on March 29, 2004, 02:29:04 AM
NCSA Mosaic
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: RossHendry on March 29, 2004, 02:53:26 AM
Mozilla Firefox.
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: phishmarisol on March 29, 2004, 03:41:51 AM
What's the difference?  I mean...we are all on the same internet right? :)
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: Sean Gallemore on March 29, 2004, 03:46:27 AM
where's lee? :P
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: nic on March 29, 2004, 08:40:39 AM
Mozilla...makes IE seem like Netscrape 3.0
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: jpschust on March 29, 2004, 09:12:17 AM
Safari :-)
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: nic on March 29, 2004, 09:22:41 AM
Safari :-)

Safari is the best browser for the MAC.
hopefully Apple will release the updates to KHTML so KDE can integrate them into Konqueror.
that would give KDE/Linux the 2 best browsers available
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: BJ on March 29, 2004, 10:36:11 AM
netscape 7.0, I should get mozilla, but too damn lazy...transferring takes ALL my time now!
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: ScottT on March 29, 2004, 10:46:27 AM
I've played around with many, but continue to use IE 6 SP1 since that's what I support at work.  Firefox will be sweet once they iron out a few more "quirks".  Love the tabbed browsing...
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: Nick Culbreth on March 29, 2004, 11:15:22 AM
opera.
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: C.Clark on March 29, 2004, 12:38:30 PM
netscape7/mozilla 5.5
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: nic on March 29, 2004, 12:42:36 PM
netscape7/mozilla 5.5

wow, Mozilla skipped from v1.7 to v5.5?   :P
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: John Kelly on March 29, 2004, 12:58:58 PM
Safari :-)

Safari is the best browser for the MAC.
hopefully Apple will release the updates to KHTML so KDE can integrate them into Konqueror.
that would give KDE/Linux the 2 best browsers available

Also on Safari.

BTW, what's a "MAC"??? ;)
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: nic on March 29, 2004, 01:12:19 PM
Safari :-)

Safari is the best browser for the MAC.
hopefully Apple will release the updates to KHTML so KDE can integrate them into Konqueror.
that would give KDE/Linux the 2 best browsers available

Also on Safari.

BTW, what's a "MAC"??? ;)

haha, force of habit.
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: mirth on March 29, 2004, 01:39:13 PM
lynx
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: mgleason007 on March 29, 2004, 07:53:34 PM
Mozilla Firefox.
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: jpschust on March 29, 2004, 08:54:28 PM
you guys wanna hear something really funny?  ok at school we use this site called "oncourse" to manage all our classes.  usually they keep copies of all the course info there, the syllabi, assignments.  Here's the deal- it has to be viewed with IE or netscape.  But here's the kicker- we have 15 or so mac labs on campus.  They only have Safari installed on the macs.  So if you are using a campus computer you cant get to probably the most important site on campus.
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: John Kelly on March 29, 2004, 09:14:05 PM
Enable the debug menu, then set the agent to IE 6 or Netscape 7.  Problem solved. ;)
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: jpschust on March 29, 2004, 09:15:27 PM
these things are so locked down, no way
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: Govt Mule on March 29, 2004, 09:24:10 PM
another vote for Opera. nothing is faster.
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: C.Clark on March 29, 2004, 10:15:37 PM
netscape7/mozilla 5.5

wow, Mozilla skipped from v1.7 to v5.5?   :P

thats what i thought i was using, guess not
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: John Kelly on March 29, 2004, 10:23:47 PM
these things are so locked down, no way

Ah come on, you can't con your way to getting an admin password? ;)
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: nic on March 29, 2004, 10:25:15 PM
sounds like someone needs to take a class in social engineering 101
:)
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: crunchy on March 29, 2004, 10:57:29 PM
Enable the debug menu, then set the agent to IE 6 or Netscape 7.  Problem solved. ;)

How do you do that?
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: John Kelly on March 30, 2004, 12:01:24 AM
Oh, and btw, just reboot the machine onto an OS X disc and you can change the admin password.  Couldn't be easier.

To enable the debug menu, paste this into the terminal when Safari is not running:
Code: [Select]
defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: Cooker on March 31, 2004, 07:08:16 PM
Firefox pretty much 100% now.

I am actually pushing for us to all use Firefox at work as it cuts down on vulnerability to spyware/popups. IE is still king with my clients, though, so i have to develop with it a lot for work.
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: mizary on April 02, 2004, 03:22:30 PM
As much as I'd love to switch to opera or firefox, IE6 is still the most compatible - so that's what I use.

Once opera gets a little more compatible I might switch to that.  I really like a lightweight browser.  Firefox seems as clunky and slow as NS ever was.  Sure it's a little more compatible than NSx, but nowhere near perfect.

--mizary
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: scb on April 02, 2004, 03:36:28 PM
>> Oh, and btw, just reboot the machine onto an OS X disc and you can change the admin password.  Couldn't be easier.<<

not exactly...

and what happens if you go to the site with safari?  it just doesn't work?  is the site specifically locking out non-IE or netscape browsers?  if so, that's a *horrible* design
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: RRobar on April 02, 2004, 04:02:02 PM
I'm pretty much exclusive to safari now (on the mac it's all I use) IE on the PC at home which gets very little use by me these days ;D. I'm not sue why stuff does not work in Safari is it not based on Netscape? Seems like the source code can't be that different. But then I'm a printing graphics guy with only a fair amount of web experience.
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: nic on April 02, 2004, 04:15:04 PM
Safari is based on KHTML, which is the HTML engine of Konqueror, the KDE/Linux browser
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: jpschust on April 02, 2004, 04:55:23 PM
it was written to lock out other non-major browsers.  dont ask me why.  supposedly starting next week it is supposed to start just warning that you arent using a supported browser and then allow you to continue.  ill believe it when i see it
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 02, 2004, 05:42:54 PM
As much as I'd love to switch to opera or firefox, IE6 is still the most compatible - so that's what I use.

Once opera gets a little more compatible I might switch to that.  I really like a lightweight browser.  Firefox seems as clunky and slow as NS ever was.  Sure it's a little more compatible than NSx, but nowhere near perfect.

I've had compatibility issues with Opera as well, though haven't experienced any with Firefox.  I love the tabbed browsing in Firefox, and really really really love the keyboard navigation - makes it so I can rip through TS.com (and most other sites that aren't god-awful over-done with Flash and such) without having to use the damn rodent.  Nice!!

Because of the way Firefox loads pages, I initially thought it was slower than IE, but it's actually faster IME.
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: mgleason007 on April 03, 2004, 11:49:06 AM
As much as I'd love to switch to opera or firefox, IE6 is still the most compatible - so that's what I use.

Once opera gets a little more compatible I might switch to that.  I really like a lightweight browser.  Firefox seems as clunky and slow as NS ever was.  Sure it's a little more compatible than NSx, but nowhere near perfect.

--mizary

Hmmm, very interesting comments.  I typically have about 8 browser windows or so open.  It sucked ass before I installed Firebird (now Firefox).  I can't imagine using anything else.  Yeah there's the occasional site that doesn't work properly, but a) it's because of poor coding on the web page, and b) how hard is it to fire up IE for that site?

And yeah Ska, I would have to agree.  Tables load as they come in with Firefox, whereas you have to wait for the whole thing to download before it will appear in IE.  I like that a lot.

Plus I've had IE crash on me a LOT more than I've had Firefox do so.
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: Nick in Edinboro on April 03, 2004, 06:40:36 PM
+T to mirth for the only text browser on the list :lol:

Anything with tabbed browsing is king for me.  I like to multitask a lot with my broadband and am doing shit on all sorts of sites at the same time.  I used to use Konquorer (which Safari is based on) but while it renders pages beautifully (clean anti-aliased fonts, etc.) it is much slower then both Mozilla and Navigator for me.  Reasons unknown but the difference is measurable, I chaulk it up to it's nice rendering really.

Unfortunately for me I am a web developer and 99.54984323% of my clients/users are on IE so I develop and debug using IE6.
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: Chris K on April 04, 2004, 10:20:17 AM
safari
Title: Re:Browser Showdown
Post by: jpschust on April 04, 2004, 12:01:11 PM
wow, thats a pretty specific stat on your clients browsers :-P