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Title: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: obaaron on February 04, 2014, 05:20:49 PM
What do you all use for post-processing?  I am using, and am familiar with Audacity and also Soundforge 9.0 but I need to upgrade to software in which I can use the Izotope plugins.  I am looking at Soundforge 11 and Steinberg Wavelab 8.   I will be having my wife purchase as she is a teacher and can get a nice discount when buying new.

What do you pro's recommend and use?  Want something with a somewhat easy learning curve....I am pretty efficient with Audacy and SF9 now as it stands.

Thanks for the feedback!
Title: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: obaaron on February 04, 2014, 05:57:02 PM
What do yuou guys use/recommend for post-proc. software?  I need something where I can use the Izotope for dither/resample plugins and am currently using Audacity and SF9.0 neither of which can use Izotope.  I am looking at Wavelab 8 and SF11 which can what do you guys recommend?  My wife is a teacher so can get the academic discount on new software purchases.  need something with not too steep of a learning curve...any guidance appreciated!

Thanks in advance!AA
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: voltronic on February 04, 2014, 06:40:25 PM
REAPER: http://www.reaper.fm/index.php (http://www.reaper.fm/index.php)

Best $60 I ever spent.  It also is fully functional as non-expiring "demo" but I happily paid them when the time came.  So there's no risk to you at least trying it for a while.

I use Izotope Ozone all the time with Reaper and it works great.  There's some good basic plugins that come with it also. 

As far as learning curve, I found it no more difficult to learn than any other serious DAW program, and it's capabilities equal to or in some cases beyond those of the "big boys" e.g. Pro Tools.  The big value point is there is one version of it, and it's not limited in any way.  By that I mean there are no price-tiered versions with different maximum track counts / sampling rates / plugins, etc.  You're only limited by your hardware.  It's constantly being updated, and there is a huge online community where you can find tutorials and/or ask questions.

BTW, you CAN host VSTs in Audacity by installing the optional "VST Enabler", but it is only semi-functional and I wouldn't bother.

Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: Gutbucket on February 04, 2014, 07:32:15 PM
I use Samplitude, which it does most everything including arcane mastering stuff like surround and DVD-A burning.  It's object oriented editing is powerful and I like it because I can do everything in one program.

If I didn't use that I'd probably use Reaper.
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: Marshall7 on February 04, 2014, 07:45:47 PM
I use Sound Forge Pro 10, Wave Lab 6, and iZotope 2 Advanced
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: obaaron on February 04, 2014, 11:03:47 PM
sweet....thanks for the feedback gonna give Reaper a run!
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: page on February 05, 2014, 01:07:30 AM
REAPER: http://www.reaper.fm/index.php (http://www.reaper.fm/index.php)

Best $60 I ever spent.

I use Izotope Ozone all the time with Reaper and it works great.  There's some good basic plugins that come with it also. 

all of this.
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: blg on February 05, 2014, 09:26:38 PM
I currently use Izotope Ozone 5 as a plug in with Adobe Audition since it's what I'm most comfortable using.  Although I would echo the sentiments above about Reaper. 
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: DSatz on February 05, 2014, 10:54:54 PM
After many years of using successive versions of SoundForge, I switched to Adobe Audition mainly because of its multi-track mixing capabilities. A year or so later, I'm nearly to the point where I can use it as efficiently as I once used SF, but not quite.

Each program has its own underlying concepts, presuppositions and eccentricities; you have to adjust to them, because they won't adjust to you.
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: hoserama on February 05, 2014, 11:35:04 PM
Big problem with Audition and VST...there's no delay compensation. So when mixing in AA and you throw on some Ozone plug-ins, it'll go out of sync when monitoring. It'll line up when exporting, but still very annoying and a deal breaker for heavy mixing.
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: kirk97132 on February 06, 2014, 01:26:11 PM
Big problem with Audition and VST...there's no delay compensation. So when mixing in AA and you throw on some Ozone plug-ins, it'll go out of sync when monitoring. It'll line up when exporting, but still very annoying and a deal breaker for heavy mixing.
I am not sure why you are experiencing this but I use Audition and VST's heavily including OZONE and ALLOY and have never had a sync issue when mixing tracks including the current 37 track mix I am working on.  If you are using AA-3 then I suspect the problem is it can only utilize 4GB of RAM.  Not nearly enough memory for processor heavy appication.  AA CS5.5 and up can use 8 or 10 GB of ram and run very smooth even when I use the Audition effects that have warnings of possible not being able to monitor in real time due to the CPU usage. 
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: hoserama on February 06, 2014, 02:25:10 PM
I've used AA3, AA6, and AA-CC. None of them utilized VST delay compensation, so not sure! In any case, I don't use Audition for mixing, much prefer Nuendo as a multitrack. Audition is better for wave editing, time alignment, etc.
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: kirk97132 on February 06, 2014, 02:50:41 PM
I've used AA3, AA6, and AA-CC. None of them utilized VST delay compensation, so not sure! In any case, I don't use Audition for mixing, much prefer Nuendo as a multitrack. Audition is better for wave editing, time alignment, etc.
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Are you talking about live mixing?  If so I cannot speak to that.  We use Allen &Heath ilive desk for shows.  As this was posted in post production I am assuming that you are not using Audition to record the tracks.  Using it as A DAW for recording I would expect latency issues.
 
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: Chuck on February 06, 2014, 04:29:19 PM
I like Steinberg WaveLab and CuBase best and I use the them almost exclusively.

But, if you are on a tight budget Adobe Audition works very well for the type of editing you would typically do as a taper. I find it easy to work with.
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: obaaron on February 06, 2014, 05:24:45 PM
actually...I think CuBase came with my m10 if im not mistaken...or my zoom I'll have to look.
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: hoserama on February 06, 2014, 07:52:45 PM
Nope, it was for regular post-production mixing. Never had any luck with fixing the latency on VST connections. Wasn't really a huge deal for me because I use Nuendo for that anyways. You're the first person I've talked to that had VST plug-ins work without latency (or at least the Izotope stuff).
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: kirk97132 on February 07, 2014, 10:09:30 AM
Nope, it was for regular post-production mixing. Never had any luck with fixing the latency on VST connections. Wasn't really a huge deal for me because I use Nuendo for that anyways. You're the first person I've talked to that had VST plug-ins work without latency (or at least the Izotope stuff).

running it on win-7 with 8GB of ram.   I will sometimes have a lag before the transport functions engage, but I have never had any sync issues at all.  Sometimes I am even running multiple busses.  Is there a possibility of the software being less than official?  I also have loaded the VST's into Adobe's folders not just linking to them in different folders.  Maybe that could help you out?
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: hoserama on February 07, 2014, 02:30:30 PM
That could be it--I'm using the VST plugins in another folder. Don't see why that would effect things, as it just wouldn't load it? Also on Win-7 64bit with 8 gigs memory. Could be it on the official software thing  ^-^

Not a big deal regardless but maybe something to consider if somebody is looking for a singular mixing software. I also notice AA is more of a memory hog as opposed to other programs.
Title: Re: Post-Processing Software - Recommendations
Post by: kirk97132 on February 08, 2014, 02:30:09 AM
That could be it--I'm using the VST plugins in another folder. Don't see why that would effect things, as it just wouldn't load it? Also on Win-7 64bit with 8 gigs memory. Could be it on the official software thing  ^-^

Not a big deal regardless but maybe something to consider if somebody is looking for a singular mixing software. I also notice AA is more of a memory hog as opposed to other programs.
try moving them into the cs5.5 VST folder, you never know.  as for the other "condition" that solution is not cheap 8)