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Gear / Technical Help => Playback Forum => Topic started by: DaryanLenz on March 31, 2003, 11:58:53 PM
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OK, I posted this before, but as of now, no responses. Thought I would try again. Go to Musiciansfriend.com, and let me know what speakers they have in-stock you would buy, and why. The free interest free credit is killing me, and I know zero about speakers. Thanks guys,
Daryan
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D,
1 word
Bose
Bri
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no just joking. D, what I tell my customers is that when it comes to speakers, you really have to pick the ones that sound the best to you. Don't be fooled by high prices and rare wood finishes, gimick tweaters etc, etc. You really need to get out there and do some listening.
When I bout my speakers, I had a limited budget to werk with, but enough to get something reasonably good. I listen to alot of cheap trick, 2 live crew and air supply so I brought in a great GD Schoeps FOB CD from Atlanta in 91 and GD:One from the Vault. It's really key to bring in your own stuff. There are alot of variables that can make comparisons difficult, but you can certainly narrow down your selection that way. I settled for a pair of Klipsch (although I loved the B&W's) because they matched the price/performace I could manage.
So two real words for you...
Go listen...
:P
Bri
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I took a look at the home speakers offered and I can honestly say "none of the above." They all suck. I wouldn't have any of them in my home stereo. Don't blow your money (you still have to eventually pay for them, even if it is interest-free) on crap. Take the money and go to your local hi-fi store and listen to what fits in your price range.
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Tannoy or Genelec, depending on how much you wish to spend. There are powered and passive monitors, and if you like the deep bass, you'll need one of their subs.
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I listen to alot of cheap trick, 2 live crew and air supply...
2 live crew! That is F'n hilarious, Bri. ;D
Kevin
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Daryan....I would agree 100% with Bri. Find a store that carries what you may be considering and go listen. Then, listen to a pair that you were not considering. Just like with the mic issue, it's all your own preferences on what you like to hear. It took me a few months to figure out what I liked and what I could afford both on my mics and my speakers. Taking your own music is the best advice. You'll know what to listen for, etc. Most of all....HAVE FUN!! There is nothing like listening to a room full of different speakers ;) Good luck.....Jason
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no just joking. D, what I tell my customers is that when it comes to speakers, you really have to pick the ones that sound the best to you. Don't be fooled by high prices and rare wood finishes, gimick tweaters etc, etc. You really need to get out there and do some listening.
When I bout my speakers, I had a limited budget to werk with, but enough to get something reasonably good. I listen to alot of cheap trick, 2 live crew and air supply so I brought in a great GD Schoeps FOB CD from Atlanta in 91 and GD:One from the Vault. It's really key to bring in your own stuff. There are alot of variables that can make comparisons difficult, but you can certainly narrow down your selection that way. I settled for a pair of Klipsch (although I loved the B&W's) because they matched the price/performace I could manage.
So two real words for you...
Go listen...
:P
Bri
again, another post that belongs in the ts.com Hall of Fame! nice job Bri! this just tickles on so many levels! ;)
(we really need that Forum!)
~S
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OK, well I am gonna go listen this afternoon and see what I like with some of my tapes. I have never had anything high-end to listen on before, so this should be fun. I will let you know what I find!
Daryan
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Ok, this is just my $.02, but don't take anything "live." Go through your CD collection and find some really great recorded discs. Search for ones that throw a wide soundstage, nice image, etc. I foind it also key to bring in some female vocal tracks (Natalie Merchant, Diana Krall, etc..). Also, bring in a majority of what you will be listening to (again not live stuff) whether it be rap, funk, jazz, blues, rock etc. Oh, and don't buy the day you think you have found something. Go back and listen a few times because your mood can change. Have fun...
SC
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imho, Genelec and Tannoys prolly recreate the music with extreme precision and are ideal in a mastering or studio enviroment, but you may find other brands lend their own charactoristic to the source in your home. Also consider the room size: subwoofer size ratio, HF dispersion and physical hieght from the ground the speakers will be. Try to think of them as lighting fixtures, the HF (tweeters/horns) as spots and the lower freq stuff as floods. There are alot of considererations here, but it's a fun journey. Let us know how you do!
Bri
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i actually think you should bring some live recordings to check out the speakers if that is what you are going to be using them for. i think it's probably the case that live aud recordings do not bring out the full potential of a speaker, but i would want to know what is going to make the stuff i listen to the most sound best. so i would bring one or two of the recordings you wear out at home and try out the speakers on those. you know those recordings really well and you'll probably hear things in them you've never knew were there. definitely do not buy the first day you go look. take your time and have fun
-damon
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d- bring that kimock show from my server with the soundfield as the source... great stereo panning, amazing recording.
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but you haven't even HEARD the SKB Madison yet!
Soundfield snobs ya...hehe... ;)
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i think it's probably the case that live aud recordings do not bring out the full potential of a speaker,
yes and no. I took in a sampling of studio recordings with me but I also brought in a few liev tapes I have made. A good live tape will lack the (over)compression that you find on all studio recordings so you can give the speakers a real workout. I brought along some rather robust tapes with healthy bottom ends to see what the speakers sounded like when they had to extend way down and playback non-rolled-off/non-compressed bass frequencies.
I have a big ass music collection (don't we all) but at home I mostly listen to live tapes, I leave the studio stuff for the car and computer. If you listen to a lot of live stuff I suggest you see how the speakers handle them, same thing if you listen to a lot of classical or jazz or folk...
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Not to get into a huge debate over this as I too had a song from one of the better recorded shows, but because hours upon hours are spent in the studio to master these discs and I would buy based on some of these. These discs were probably played back on systems magnitudes better than the average consumer. Yes there is the compression issue, but I'd take that over the lack of acoustic stability. By this I mean your lack to get a recording from an acoustcally treated environment and from the exactly the stereo center. I have found that some lesser system have provided better playback of concerts in general than the HQ ones due to the detail you get from the $$$$
My $.02
SC
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Very true! I agree with Scott 1000% on this. When I auditioned speakers, I took some studio discs that I play the hell out of (my favorite being disc 4 of the "Tougher Than Tough" Jamacian reggae box set - the dancehall disc) and some major-label released live discs. I used the Dick's Picks 9 set from MSG as my live reference because it sounds great, I had just been there for the Phish NYE shows, and because I could listen to see if the speakers could accurately capture the ambience of the room. MSG has a unique sound as a concert arena, probably because of that wooden ceiling, and the B&Ws I chose did the best with jazz music (what I listen to a lot) and also "put me in the building" at MSG.