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Title: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: bagtagsell on December 20, 2004, 08:59:05 AM
There come moments in taping when something surreal happens.  When you are in the right spot for something that will never happen again (I'm thinking aftershow Phish bluegrass in Indiana).  And a savy taper can be the only resource forever.  That being said, how fast could you whip it out and start rollin.  The way things are currrently setup in my bag, I'm thinking 3 min-5min.
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: eric.B on December 20, 2004, 09:03:42 AM
am i sober?
is my flashlight functional?
clamp or full stand setup?
am I being crowded?
are there patchers bothering me?
are there hottie bartenders that are distracting me?
do I have to pee really bad?


jk... 
me..  maybe 5-7 minutes..
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Nick Graham on December 20, 2004, 10:38:46 AM
I can, and have, been set up and ready to roll in less than 90 seconds.

The advantages of having your entire rig hooked up in your bag are endless. Attach the mount/bar to the stand or clamp, throw in the caps, hit a couple of power buttons and bam...I'm rolling.
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: neumannkid on December 20, 2004, 10:41:09 AM
I can, and have, been set up and ready to roll in less than 90 seconds.

The advantages of having your entire rig hooked up in your bag are endless. Attach the mount/bar to the stand or clamp, throw in the caps, hit a couple of power buttons and bam...I'm rolling.
After seeing pics of your setup I definitely believe it could be done that fast.I hope to aspire to such greatness one day. Just need to find the right bag.
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Lil Kim Jong-Il on December 20, 2004, 10:56:13 AM
I can, and have, been set up and ready to roll in less than 90 seconds.

The advantages of having your entire rig hooked up in your bag are endless. Attach the mount/bar to the stand or clamp, throw in the caps, hit a couple of power buttons and bam...I'm rolling.

Thats about where I am.  Besides the prewired rig, I shaved some time by using quick connect adapters on my mount bar.  I bought a few of those and fitted both my clamp and stand.  Most shows, the single most time consuming part of my set up is getting the damn wrapper off the DAT tape.
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Tim on December 20, 2004, 10:57:20 AM
those Maxell wrappers suck :P
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Chuck on December 20, 2004, 11:41:30 AM
You guys are lamers...  :D
I take the wrapper off the DAT tapes BEFORE I leave with my rig.  ;)
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Kwonfidelity on December 20, 2004, 11:45:34 AM
I always open and unpack tapes at home, and record a minute of blank a-time leader. This will save time at the show as well.

Props to you.  I always hate to see scattered tape wrapper in the section or fob, along with battery packages, and at times even spent batteries. 

Pack it in, pack it out.
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: nickgregory on December 20, 2004, 12:48:42 PM
Pack it in, pack it out.

agreed it is a pet peeve of mine to see all that crap and even duct tape still on the floor, chairs, or rolled in a ball....it is not wonder some venues dislike tapers....
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: thierryhenry on December 20, 2004, 12:51:40 PM
I can, and have, been set up and ready to roll in less than 90 seconds.

The advantages of having your entire rig hooked up in your bag are endless. Attach the mount/bar to the stand or clamp, throw in the caps, hit a couple of power buttons and bam...I'm rolling.

Wow, very nice.
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Lil Kim Jong-Il on December 20, 2004, 12:54:06 PM
I always stuff the wrappers back into my pack.

Batteries are bad.  The main issue for me in Asheville was little liquor bottles that kept getting under foot.  I almost went to ground a few times from stepping back onto maker's mark minis.



Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: kev B on December 20, 2004, 04:58:28 PM
With everyone bragging, we should set up a head-to-head contest. ala the ones they have for bartenders. We'd have such categories as quickest rig set up, quickest breakdown, blocking competetion, toss the wooks and hottie spotting.  :P
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Tall Adam on December 20, 2004, 05:11:42 PM
i think i once was set up in 20 min.  :-[ with my lappy and needing to go through task manager and ctrl +alt +delete everything and waiting for it to power up, and not having any cables connected my usual setup time is a lame 30 minutes  :(
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: jpschust on December 20, 2004, 05:18:34 PM
as long as it takes me to unwrap the tape and throw it in a deck.  itakes me all of 2-3 minutes to set up a stand put the tape in the deck and clamp mics to the stand.  my new method- no more screwing the dumb mount on the stand- easier to just leave the mics on the mount on the clamp.  power on and go.
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: urobouros on December 20, 2004, 05:22:18 PM
With everyone bragging, we should set up a head-to-head contest. ala the ones they have for bartenders. We'd have such categories as quickest rig set up, quickest breakdown, blocking competetion, toss the wooks and hottie spotting.  :P

I can see it now...Taper Olympics!!!
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: jpschust on December 20, 2004, 05:25:07 PM
is toss the wook like the caper toss?
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Tall Adam on December 20, 2004, 05:25:28 PM
With everyone bragging, we should set up a head-to-head contest. ala the ones they have for bartenders. We'd have such categories as quickest rig set up, quickest breakdown, blocking competetion, toss the wooks and hottie spotting.  :P

I can see it now...Taper Olympics!!!

we do something like this over the summer at my summer job (raft guide in maine) guide olympics...all random events remotely related to rafting with a whole lot of drinking and fun involved. kicks ass
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: redseed on December 20, 2004, 05:38:45 PM
I have the fastest setup!

SBD->MT-877
 ;)
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Tall Adam on December 20, 2004, 05:39:52 PM
yep you also have your ass kicked out of the club the fastest when the FOH catches you fuckin with his board and tears you a new one...
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Ed. on December 20, 2004, 05:43:06 PM
i'm in at about 5 minutes.  usually i have 5 people handing me tshirts or other stuff saying "can you put this in your bag" which gets annoying.  that happened at mmj, i was having some trouble getting my stand up and i have 5 of my friends handing me cds and tshirts expecting me to throw them in my bag so they can get a good spot up front.
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: urobouros on December 20, 2004, 06:21:37 PM
i'm in at about 5 minutes.  usually i have 5 people handing me tshirts or other stuff saying "can you put this in your bag" which gets annoying.  that happened at mmj, i was having some trouble getting my stand up and i have 5 of my friends handing me cds and tshirts expecting me to throw them in my bag so they can get a good spot up front.

Looks like 5 folks that won't get a copy of the show!  ;)
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Ed. on December 20, 2004, 06:41:04 PM
haha, naw, i just yelled at them a bit after the show and said that i'd be happy to place all of their stuff by my bag or in my bag, but when i'm still setting up is not the time to ask.  gotta way 15 minutes or so, so i can calm down and focus on things around me.  for some reason i get really tense right before a show and i stay tense until after i get setup.  then i get tense again right before the music starts.
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: urobouros on December 20, 2004, 07:19:04 PM
I get excited just because I want to do it right.  I just started taping, but I'm a perfectionist in terms of doing the best with what I have.  I know that my rig is pretty low-end but I still like the tape I've pulled with it thus far.  Anything is better than the ole' MS907>MD setup!  ;D
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Ed. on December 20, 2004, 07:49:02 PM
nothing wrong with the luxes i ran those for close to a year.  +t
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: creekfreak on December 20, 2004, 08:14:25 PM
hmmm...think we need to have some taper olympics here....time people and see how fast they can pull it off, could make it interesting, apply some pressure...throw some spun wooks at you, dump some water to simulate rain...etc ;D
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Tim on December 20, 2004, 08:18:26 PM
some of those goggles that simulate being drunk should be used... either that or we should actually get wasted before hand :P
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Tall Adam on December 20, 2004, 09:31:35 PM
i vote for the latter  ;). ya know, this could be done at a bigger festival during those boring lazy pre-noon hours....i swear im not a total nerd, just a thought...
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Simp-Dawg on December 20, 2004, 10:08:04 PM
i'm up in a couple mins...take the film cannisters off the caps, drop the stud adaptor which i leave in my schoeps mount onto the stand, plug in and power up the jb3 and psp-2, mod sbm-1, and hosa box (all 3 of which can be done in a matter of seconds), switch to record mode on jb3 and double check i'm going wav ;) and that's it.

set up and tear down are easy for me...it's keeping everything going during the show that i've been having problems wiht :P

mostly just battery issues, easy enough to fix.
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Tim on December 20, 2004, 10:14:10 PM
it's keeping everything going during the show that i've been having problems wiht :P

not uncommon for little stupid shit to go wrong when you completely switch rigs... you'll get it worked out soon. I need to hear some of your new tapes...
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: JAH on December 21, 2004, 08:27:54 AM
All depends on the bag used.....stealth or the Carin take time to re-situate if the MMe is being used...using the sbm vice the MME is the same as using the RAKGEAR bag...all set up (including tape in the recorder), just pull out the mics (that are in film cans and on the bar) and hit record.  Either hand hold or clamp.

JAH

edited for spelling  bad>bag
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Todd R on December 21, 2004, 01:36:19 PM
Yep, now that I'm back to actives, it's about 90 seconds to set up and tear down.  A bit more if I'm changing caps.  Everything is all hooked up in the bag, ready to go.  DIN bar already mounted in the schoeps A20s shockmount.  Open things up, put the schoeps mount on the stand (or clamped to someone elses stand), pull the mic capsule heads out of their compartment in the bag and mount them into the DIN bar, raise the stand, power on the JKLabs box, JB3 and V3.
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: wbrisette on December 21, 2004, 02:04:36 PM
With everyone bragging, we should set up a head-to-head contest. ala the ones they have for bartenders. We'd have such categories as quickest rig set up, quickest breakdown, blocking competetion, toss the wooks and hottie spotting.  :P

Well, as many Austin tapers will tell you, it ain't me. ;-) I've got to be one of the slowest guys setting up my rig at shows. Part of it is well, I just have too many friggin'  cables. 4 mic cables, The mixer, the A/D, the DAT... Now some of that will go away with the hard drive recorder, but still, I don't think I'll ever be setting any speed records for setting up or tearing down.

I'm definitely not one of the folks who would be in this head-to-head contest. ;-)

Wayne
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: twoodruff on December 21, 2004, 02:21:00 PM
10-15 minutes, i cant do anything quick except have sex
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: sickrick43 on December 21, 2004, 04:38:14 PM

Old, slow...  Sigh...

I think it takes me longest to get the damn LD's phased "just exactly perfect".  Plugging everything together takes 30 seconds.  I'd say I could push it to under 5 minutes if I arrived late (& nothing is pre-cabled).  I usually get to shows REAL EARLY and take my sweet-ass time.  So from the time I throw my stand down, to the time when I power everything off and go look for the bathroom (pre-show leak), about 20 minutes...

Rick
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Nick Culbreth on December 21, 2004, 05:48:08 PM
I can, and have, been set up and ready to roll in less than 90 seconds.

The advantages of having your entire rig hooked up in your bag are endless. Attach the mount/bar to the stand or clamp, throw in the caps, hit a couple of power buttons and bam...I'm rolling.

pfft... When I was running that setup I could get rolling in 60 seconds.   :)
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: F.O.Bean on December 21, 2004, 06:20:54 PM
everything is hooked up in my bag too except the mics, it takes me the longest to position my mics :P they gotta be just perfect ;)

3-5 mins is the norm if im rushing, takin my time and b/s'in w/ team p-burgh, bout 10-20 mins because we all clamp onto the same couple stands :)
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: nic on December 21, 2004, 07:06:02 PM
everything is hooked up in my bag too except the mics, it takes me the longest to position my mics :P they gotta be just perfect ;)

haha, watching you setup at Coventry was like watching water boil...    ;)
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: F.O.Bean on December 21, 2004, 07:08:25 PM
everything is hooked up in my bag too except the mics, it takes me the longest to position my mics :P they gotta be just perfect ;)

haha, watching you setup at Coventry was like watching water boil...    ;)

hey, thats not fair ;)

i know, i have my good days and my bad days for sure :)

since the hosa box is gone and i can go v3>jb3, that alone eliminates about 3-4 mins :P 8)
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Nick Graham on December 21, 2004, 09:21:31 PM
I can, and have, been set up and ready to roll in less than 90 seconds.

The advantages of having your entire rig hooked up in your bag are endless. Attach the mount/bar to the stand or clamp, throw in the caps, hit a couple of power buttons and bam...I'm rolling.

pfft... When I was running that setup I could get rolling in 60 seconds.   :)

A little more practice and I'll be there...

;)

Congrats on selling the 4022s
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: zhianosatch on December 22, 2004, 09:22:08 AM

 Most shows, the single most time consuming part of my set up is getting the damn wrapper off the DAT tape.

Holding the sealed tape case in one hand, and orienting it such that the opening part of the case is facing up. Take your fingernail and run it up and down the spine that is the opening lid to the case. The friction from your fingernail will split the plastic wrap wide open, and the tape will almost fall out of the wrapper. A few seconds maximum, and your ready to roll with a new tape.
I always open and unpack tapes at home, and record a minute of blank a-time leader. This will save time at the show as well.

moke saved my ass this summer at ras michael. listen to him. :)
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: Depechemode1993 on December 22, 2004, 05:15:56 PM
I think I win... 15 seconds.  ;D I have no pre-amps no nothing. just a DAT and a mic. I put my DAT tape in before I get to the show.   :D
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: drewloo on December 23, 2004, 01:35:20 AM
as long as it takes me to unwrap the tape and throw it in a deck.  itakes me all of 2-3 minutes to set up a stand put the tape in the deck and clamp mics to the stand.  my new method- no more screwing the dumb mount on the stand- easier to just leave the mics on the mount on the clamp.  power on and go.

This reminds me of one time when I woke up one morning after a show and couldn't find my mics!  Not in their case and not in my bag.  I start freaking out and then think "no way"...go out  & get my stand out of my car and there they are still in the shockmounts.  :o  I had a good time at the show--I think.   :D
Title: Re: Who's got the fastest setup
Post by: F.O.Bean on December 23, 2004, 05:47:24 AM
as long as it takes me to unwrap the tape and throw it in a deck.  itakes me all of 2-3 minutes to set up a stand put the tape in the deck and clamp mics to the stand.  my new method- no more screwing the dumb mount on the stand- easier to just leave the mics on the mount on the clamp.  power on and go.

This reminds me of one time when I woke up one morning after a show and couldn't find my mics!  Not in their case and not in my bag.  I start freaking out and then think "no way"...go out  & get my stand out of my car and there they are still in the shockmounts.  :o  I had a good time at the show--I think.   :D

ouch man, thats crazy :)