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Title: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: George on March 13, 2006, 07:38:06 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/gloco/RegaPlanar3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/gloco/GradoGoldPrestigestylus.jpg)

It's a used Rega Planar 3 with a grace tonearm and Grado Gold stylus.   8)
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: jpschust on March 13, 2006, 08:07:03 PM
dude the rega stuff is so nice.  rock on!  what are you using on the pre side?
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: Kyle on March 13, 2006, 08:23:51 PM
dude the rega stuff is so nice.  rock on!  what are you using on the pre side?
freakin' sweet!  8)
wondering about the pre as well
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: George on March 13, 2006, 08:33:33 PM
dude the rega stuff is so nice.  rock on!  what are you using on the pre side?

Thanks man!  I'm currently using my Yamaha receiver's phono preamp (model# RX-V493).  It sounds pretty good, but I'm having some tracking issues with the stylus due to the design of the Rega in terms of vibration and possibly tracking force.  I intend on ordering a new belt and dust cover since the cover on this one is a bit beat up.  Looks like i'll have to wall mount the Rega too because its ultra sensitive to vibrations.  I already have a shure tracking force guage ordered.
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: Nick Culbreth on March 13, 2006, 08:47:25 PM
Nice looking setup Gloco.  Looks like you have a pretty nice headphone on the rack under the turntable  :)
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: Tim on March 13, 2006, 09:13:45 PM
excellent!

Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: George on March 13, 2006, 09:36:02 PM
Nice looking setup Gloco.  Looks like you have a pretty nice headphone on the rack under the turntable  :)

hehe, that's my Baby Orpheus just so you don't confuse it with that HD-650    >:D

Thanks Tim  ;)

edit:  I'm currently listening to Madonna's Confessions on a Dance floor vinyl (don't laugh, I really love this album), nice sound and the facker hasn't skipped once...so far.  Although, there's definitely some sibilence there. 
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: Nick Culbreth on March 13, 2006, 10:09:12 PM
hehe, that's my Baby Orpheus just so you don't confuse it with that HD-650    >:D

Thanks Tim  ;)

edit:  I'm currently listening to Madonna's Confessions on a Dance floor vinyl (don't laugh, I really love this album), nice sound and the facker hasn't skipped once...so far.  Although, there's definitely some sibilence there. 

I knew it was the Baby O, it isn't shiny enough to be a HD-650.  :)

I agree with you on Confessions, I'm not usually a fan of Madonna's stuff but that album is actually pretty good.
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: jpschust on March 13, 2006, 10:59:20 PM
dude the rega stuff is so nice.  rock on!  what are you using on the pre side?

Thanks man!  I'm currently using my Yamaha receiver's phono preamp (model# RX-V493).  It sounds pretty good, but I'm having some tracking issues with the stylus due to the design of the Rega in terms of vibration and possibly tracking force.  I intend on ordering a new belt and dust cover since the cover on this one is a bit beat up.  Looks like i'll have to wall mount the Rega too because its ultra sensitive to vibrations.  I already have a shure tracking force guage ordered.

you should consider a real outboard phono pre.  you'll be amazed at what it can do for your system.  think about it as going line in on a d8 vs buying a pre.
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: George on March 14, 2006, 08:06:16 AM
dude the rega stuff is so nice.  rock on!  what are you using on the pre side?

Thanks man!  I'm currently using my Yamaha receiver's phono preamp (model# RX-V493).  It sounds pretty good, but I'm having some tracking issues with the stylus due to the design of the Rega in terms of vibration and possibly tracking force.  I intend on ordering a new belt and dust cover since the cover on this one is a bit beat up.  Looks like i'll have to wall mount the Rega too because its ultra sensitive to vibrations.  I already have a shure tracking force guage ordered.

you should consider a real outboard phono pre.  you'll be amazed at what it can do for your system.  think about it as going line in on a d8 vs buying a pre.

I'll definitely consider it.  I know the Yamaha is on its way out once I purchase some speakers for a HT setup, I'm thinking epos as my speaker brand and probably a denon receiver.  A phono preamp may also be in the works as well as a wall mount for the TT to avoid vibrations. 

Nick, if you've never heard the Baby O, you must do so, it's a killer headphone.    :o
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: pfife on March 14, 2006, 08:19:15 AM
watch out on the Denon receivers - my Denon (AVR-683, I believe) has no phono stage... but ymmv
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: George on March 14, 2006, 09:00:22 AM
watch out on the Denon receivers - my Denon (AVR-683, I believe) has no phono stage... but ymmv


Ay yes, thanks for the tip.  It's something I gotta keep in mind for sure.  Say, how does a phono preamp plug into a receiver?  I'm assuming there has to be a set of ports specifically for an outboard preamp.
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: pfife on March 14, 2006, 09:13:22 AM
watch out on the Denon receivers - my Denon (AVR-683, I believe) has no phono stage... but ymmv


Ay yes, thanks for the tip.  It's something I gotta keep in mind for sure.  Say, how does a phono preamp plug into a receiver?  I'm assuming there has to be a set of ports specifically for an outboard preamp.
an educated guess:  the pre can go into any aux input.  Because the Denon had no phono stage, I purchased one of those really cheap turntables from Circuit City (either AT or Sony) for like $99... they both have built in pres that you turn on under the platter.  When you turned that on, you plugged it into whatever input you wanted to use (aux, whatever).  I'd imagine that its the same way with an outboard pre.
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: macdaddy on March 14, 2006, 09:32:25 AM
it is the same...

the phono stage plugs into the receiver just as any other source. the phono stage typically adds between 30 - 60 db of gain to the phono signal (bringing the signal to line level)...

phono > phonostage(preamp) > receiver

Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: jpschust on March 14, 2006, 09:55:07 AM
it is the same...

the phono stage plugs into the receiver just as any other source. the phono stage typically adds between 30 - 60 db of gain to the phono signal (bringing the signal to line level)...

phono > phonostage(preamp) > receiver



it does more than that.  there is an RIAA eq curve for records that it matches as well.
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: macdaddy on March 14, 2006, 06:34:28 PM
it is the same...

the phono stage plugs into the receiver just as any other source. the phono stage typically adds between 30 - 60 db of gain to the phono signal (bringing the signal to line level)...

phono > phonostage(preamp) > receiver



it does more than that.  there is an RIAA eq curve for records that it matches as well.

yeah - i was giving an abbreviated version, but yes the riaa curve is a crucial component...
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: Nick Culbreth on March 14, 2006, 10:44:53 PM
I'll definitely consider it.  I know the Yamaha is on its way out once I purchase some speakers for a HT setup, I'm thinking epos as my speaker brand and probably a denon receiver.  A phono preamp may also be in the works as well as a wall mount for the TT to avoid vibrations. 

Nick, if you've never heard the Baby O, you must do so, it's a killer headphone.    :o

I'm trying to stay FAR away from all electrostatic headphones, the last thing i need to do is start coveting another expensive headphone which needs it's own special amp.  I'm really happy with my W11JPN, W100, W5000 triumverate and I'd like to stay that way.   ;D
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: George on March 15, 2006, 08:42:57 AM
I'll definitely consider it.  I know the Yamaha is on its way out once I purchase some speakers for a HT setup, I'm thinking epos as my speaker brand and probably a denon receiver.  A phono preamp may also be in the works as well as a wall mount for the TT to avoid vibrations. 

Nick, if you've never heard the Baby O, you must do so, it's a killer headphone.    :o

I'm trying to stay FAR away from all electrostatic headphones, the last thing i need to do is start coveting another expensive headphone which needs it's own special amp.  I'm really happy with my W11JPN, W100, W5000 triumverate and I'd like to stay that way.   ;D

Hehe, I know what you mean.  With the Baby O's, its own amp is the leakest link...you know what that means, I'm gonna have to upgrade eventually.   >:D
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: George on March 16, 2006, 08:43:22 AM
Just a quick update, I've been listening to the rega every night and for the last two days its been sounding great, no skipping!  The only thing I notice is some vibrations when the stylus is reading the last few minutes of a song on one side of a record.  I order a sweet record "brush" from amusicdirect, its great!  I also ordered another 100 audiophile record sleeves and outside jackets.  I'll be getting the belt and dust cover in the next week or two.  I might also look into getting one of those jello-type stylus cleaners they sell on amusicdirect. 
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: macdaddy on March 16, 2006, 08:58:25 AM
stylus cleaner is very effective - i use the one from extremephono, as i think it is a bit cheaper...

if you dont go with a vacuum record cleaner, get the orbitrac system...

also, those audioquest antistatic brushes are a good call...

the next thing you have to do then would be to make sure that your tonearm and cartridge are aligned EXACTLY as they should be (small discrepencies can make a big difference in sound)...

have fun.

Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: cshepherd on March 16, 2006, 12:03:12 PM
Have you tried any isolation feet for the turntable?  Aside from the sonic benefits, they do a good job minimizing vibrations to the unit.  It would be easier than wall-mounting, too.

Chris
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: zowie on March 28, 2006, 08:07:46 PM
Whoa!
You may be having tracking problems because the stylus is bent!
Look at the camber angle in the picture you posted.
Unless it's an illusion, you'd better change that asap before you wreck your records.
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: George on March 30, 2006, 06:01:31 PM
Whoa!
You may be having tracking problems because the stylus is bent!
Look at the camber angle in the picture you posted.
Unless it's an illusion, you'd better change that asap before you wreck your records.

screams in horror

(faints)
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: carlbeck on March 30, 2006, 08:46:32 PM
I just made a sand isolation box, I will post pictures up here tomorrow. The final coat of poly is drying as I type this. It was real easy & I hope it will help with any skipping I get on occasion.
Title: Re: Ah, now I can listen to my Vinyl again
Post by: zowie on April 01, 2006, 09:23:25 PM
I just made a sand isolation box, I will post pictures up here tomorrow.


Hope you don't have a cat.