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Title: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: lbgspam on January 04, 2007, 04:35:47 PM
Hi,

I haven't used my Nightengale 6 Pro for 6 months and I just tried for last 3 hours to get my SPDIF input via COAX from my Tascam DAT output to work. I don't think my settings are incorrect, so I am theorizing the card is just busted.

Is there a cheap replacement out there for a digital COAX input to a PC?  I don't need anything fancy, just something to get the job done to transfer my last DAT to my hard disk.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: tapeworm48 on January 04, 2007, 11:18:45 PM

I had the same problem with my ZNP6.  Never could figure it out.  SO what i did was sent a signal from the coax into my Sony R300, which then passed a signal to my ZNP6 via the optical.  Worked just fine.  Maybe the coax was busted or is faulty in these cards.

To answer your ? though, I picked up an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 for my new setup once i moved.  i bought it from ebay for ~$50, new, sealed, shipped.  so far it hasnt given me problems and i have liked it greatly.  hope that helps. 
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: Church-Audio on January 05, 2007, 01:42:54 AM
Hi,

I haven't used my Nightengale 6 Pro for 6 months and I just tried for last 3 hours to get my SPDIF input via COAX from my Tascam DAT output to work. I don't think my settings are incorrect, so I am theorizing the card is just busted.

Is there a cheap replacement out there for a digital COAX input to a PC?  I don't need anything fancy, just something to get the job done to transfer my last DAT to my hard disk.

Thanks!

Zoltrix could not make a good modem, never mind a sound card. I like the Maudio Delta AP192 this soundcard rocks for the money.
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: rowjimmy on January 05, 2007, 07:50:46 AM

Zoltrix could not make a good modem, never mind a sound card. I like the Maudio Delta AP192 this soundcard rocks for the money.

Good call on the modems.

 ;)
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: lbgspam on January 05, 2007, 10:22:16 AM

I had the same problem with my ZNP6.  Never could figure it out.  SO what i did was sent a signal from the coax into my Sony R300, which then passed a signal to my ZNP6 via the optical.  Worked just fine.  Maybe the coax was busted or is faulty in these cards.

To answer your ? though, I picked up an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 for my new setup once i moved.  i bought it from ebay for ~$50, new, sealed, shipped.  so far it hasnt given me problems and i have liked it greatly.  hope that helps. 

Wow, that's a great price on the Audiophile! They are going for about $30 more now.  Hmm, best i saw was 87 delivered by ZipZoomFly....

I only have a COAX output on my Tascam DA20 and no way to get it to an optical connection unfortunately....I wish I had a digital input on my Edirol R-09 as I really rather not bother with the internal PC card.

Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: lbgspam on January 05, 2007, 10:25:34 AM
I only have a COAX output on my Tascam DA20 and no way to do an optical connection.  I really would prefer a USB based device. The only one I found was the M-audio which is only Optical in, I need COAX in.

Is there a USB device that does COAX and Optical in?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: bluegrass_brad on January 05, 2007, 10:47:00 AM
Buy a JB3 from the yardsale.  Run coax out > Hosa box > JB3.  Then transfer from the JB3 via USB or Firewire.  Bitperfect transfer and you still have a backup deck to the R-09, or just sell it when your done transferring DAT's. There was one in the Yardsale for $75 yesterday.
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: lbgspam on January 05, 2007, 11:13:32 AM
Buy a JB3 from the yardsale.  Run coax out > Hosa box > JB3.  Then transfer from the JB3 via USB or Firewire.  Bitperfect transfer and you still have a backup deck to the R-09, or just sell it when your done transferring DAT's. There was one in the Yardsale for $75 yesterday.

What is a HOSA box? HOw much is that?
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: bluegrass_brad on January 05, 2007, 11:20:38 AM
a HOSA ODL-276 box is a converter to go from coax to optical.  I got mine used for $25.  Its about 2" square, has coax in/out and optical In/out runs off 9v wall wart or battery.  There are several comparable boxes made by other companies.
(http://i15.ebayimg.com/01/i/05/ec/ef/b7_2.JPG)
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: lbgspam on January 05, 2007, 11:21:25 AM
a HOSA ODL-276 box is a converter to go from coax to optical.  I got mine used for $25.  Its about 2" square, has coax in/out and optical In/out runs off 9v wall wart or battery.  There are several comparable boxes made by other companies.
(http://i15.ebayimg.com/01/i/05/ec/ef/b7_2.JPG)


Thanks! I think that is the way to go. I really am sick of dealing with PCI cards etc, rather just do it this way.
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: bluegrass_brad on January 05, 2007, 11:22:45 AM
yeah, it's a pretty painless way to do it.
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: rowjimmy on January 05, 2007, 11:33:11 AM
HOSA > JB3 rocks. I've run this as my patchtastic setup for ages.
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: lbgspam on January 05, 2007, 11:43:05 AM
HOSA > JB3 rocks. I've run this as my patchtastic setup for ages.

Hmm, one thing I don't like, I just found out the JB3 requires windows software to work and is 1.1 USB (not a huge deal).  I was hoping it just mounted as a USB hard drive.

Any other options?
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: bluegrass_brad on January 05, 2007, 11:51:21 AM
Are you on a Mac or PC?
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: lbgspam on January 05, 2007, 11:55:26 AM
Are you on a Mac or PC?

PC.

However, I am interested in something that requires no computer for the transfer. I.e. Copy from the Tascam Da-20 to a device that can then be mounted as a hard disk or something.  If the Edirol R-09 had a digital input I wouldn't even need this :)

Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: lbgspam on January 05, 2007, 12:08:26 PM
What about if I did

Coax to Optical cable ->M-Audio Transit USB

Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: Shawn on January 05, 2007, 12:21:56 PM
I guess I don't see why "using windows software" is a problem. There are alternatives to the properitary software that coems with a JB3 so You don't have to use it if that bothers you.  Either way it's really no different than it working as a USB hard drive. You still have to copy the files from the drive of the JB3 onto your PC hard drive.

I've had devices that worked both ways and neither was better or worse.

just my $.02
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: bluegrass_brad on January 05, 2007, 12:24:11 PM
I guess I don't see why "using windows software" is a problem. There are alternatives to the properitary software that coems with a JB3 so You don't have to use it if that bothers you.  Either way it's really no different than it working as a USB hard drive. You still have to copy the files from the drive of the JB3 onto your PC hard drive.

I've had devices that worked both ways and neither was better or worse.

just my $.02

QFT. 
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: rustoleum on January 05, 2007, 12:28:02 PM
If it's your last DAT feel free to send it to me and I'll dump it via my DDS drive and send you a DVDR.  PM if you're interested.
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: lbgspam on January 05, 2007, 12:38:29 PM
I guess I don't see why "using windows software" is a problem. There are alternatives to the properitary software that coems with a JB3 so You don't have to use it if that bothers you.  Either way it's really no different than it working as a USB hard drive. You still have to copy the files from the drive of the JB3 onto your PC hard drive.

I've had devices that worked both ways and neither was better or worse.

just my $.02

Oh, what alternatives are there?
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: Shawn on January 05, 2007, 12:45:37 PM
I believe it's called notmad explorer...
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: lbgspam on January 05, 2007, 12:52:40 PM
I found this converter box, anyone know of it?

http://www.amazon.com/DAYTON-DAC-CO-COAXIAL-OPTICAL-CONVERTER/dp/B0002MQGQI (http://www.amazon.com/DAYTON-DAC-CO-COAXIAL-OPTICAL-CONVERTER/dp/B0002MQGQI)

Also, this instead of the M-Audio Transit:

http://www.roland.com/products/en/UA-1EX/index.html (http://www.roland.com/products/en/UA-1EX/index.html)

Seems cheap and gets the job done.
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: rowjimmy on January 08, 2007, 09:33:17 AM
JB3 does have firewire as well...
Title: Re: Zoltrix Nightengale 6 Pro Replacement Suggestion?
Post by: rowjimmy on January 08, 2007, 09:35:01 AM
I found this converter box, anyone know of it?

http://www.amazon.com/DAYTON-DAC-CO-COAXIAL-OPTICAL-CONVERTER/dp/B0002MQGQI (http://www.amazon.com/DAYTON-DAC-CO-COAXIAL-OPTICAL-CONVERTER/dp/B0002MQGQI)



This box is bad. It's oft referred to as the calrad or 'greybox'. It is not bit-perfect and, my brief experience with one was horrid.