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Which source did you prefer, and why?

I prefer A and think it's the V3
3 (18.8%)
I prefer A and think it's the wmod-UA5
4 (25%)
I prefer B and think it's the V3
5 (31.3%)
I prefer B and think it's the wmod-UA5
2 (12.5%)
I can't tell the difference between A and B
0 (0%)
I hate both tapes, stupid DMB stack tapers.
2 (12.5%)

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Author Topic: Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's  (Read 7183 times)

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Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« on: December 17, 2003, 10:34:55 PM »
if anyone's interested.  i'll post the results in a few days once a few people weigh in.

hammer away.  

http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~sisa1297/comparison/

george

ps.  and the poll above is completely stolen from brian's post.  it just seemed to fit so i went with it.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2003, 10:40:10 PM by gsisak »

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2003, 04:59:44 AM »
after listening to the last comparison i would have to say A = ua-5 and B = V3.  

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2003, 06:25:42 AM »
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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2003, 08:53:24 AM »
Thanks for posting this, George.  Looking forward to listening to it tonight!
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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2003, 10:30:08 AM »
id do it but dave's voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me!

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2003, 01:07:42 PM »
"id do it but dave's voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me! "

Dude, I am sooo with you on this, I'm glad I finally found somebody else who agrees that Dave's voice is the sole reason I don't listen to DMB.  It's a shame too, I really don't mind the *music* at all, it's just that when he sings is when I turn it off...

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2003, 01:10:35 PM »
for me, the dave matthews band, just like counting crows and so many others are all bands that are held back by their frontmen.

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2003, 02:34:39 PM »
for me, the dave matthews band, just like counting crows and so many others are all bands that are held back by their frontmen.

Dude... I hate arguing opinions about music... but the counting crows are way worse than just their vokillist...

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2003, 02:42:38 PM »
musically they are pretty decent, their vocals, that fat bastard adam duritz is what tears that band apart for me.

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2003, 05:12:04 PM »
I am going with A being the V3 and B the U-A5. I like the A source better.

-JB

<edit> I am actually changing. I like source A, but I think it is the wmod U-A5. B is the V3.

-JB
« Last Edit: December 20, 2003, 11:26:12 AM by Jason B »

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2003, 05:45:05 PM »
I'm with 'b' for the v3 and like it best.  I think the v3 and w-mod sound more unique and different in this comparison than in Brian's tests.  Not sure why - maybe we could get the whole chain outlined.  

What's striking is how different the two sound on those first 3 clicks of the drum sticks at the beginning of Salsbury Hill.  That's really all you need to hear to tell the difference!

With headphones, 'b' had a whole different dimensional feel - voice and guitar sounded more upfront.  Comparitively, it made 'a' sound like it was missing detail.  That's what makes me think 'a' is the w-mod.

Now if the source was really bright - I bet you I'd prefer 'a', (I preferred the w-mod in Brian's first test).
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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2003, 05:47:46 PM »
Source A seems to be punchier in the kick and low end. Source B seems to be rather smooth and detailed, but too subdued to me in the kick and lows.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2003, 05:53:14 PM by Jason B »

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2003, 11:50:35 AM »
One thing that I found interesting was to focus on the opening chord of "lie in our graves." I thought I heard a difference in position within the soundstage. A seemed to take up more than just the center; it was wider and deeper. Are there any pictures of the rig(s)?

Both sources sound good for what they are (e.g. stack tapes). I gave the nod to A, but to tell you the truth, I really don't know that I could identify it as either. Perhaps I don't have enough experiance listening to either of these boxes. Either way, Doug Oade has done a great job with his mods.

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2003, 11:56:41 AM »
musically they are pretty decent, their vocals, that fat bastard adam duritz is what tears that band apart for me.

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Re:Round 3: V3/Oade-warm-mod-UA5 comparison AKG 480's
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2003, 02:11:53 PM »
One thing that I found interesting was to focus on the opening chord of "lie in our graves." I thought I heard a difference in position within the soundstage. A seemed to take up more than just the center; it was wider and deeper. Are there any pictures of the rig(s)?

Both sources sound good for what they are (e.g. stack tapes). I gave the nod to A, but to tell you the truth, I really don't know that I could identify it as either. Perhaps I don't have enough experiance listening to either of these boxes. Either way, Doug Oade has done a great job with his mods.

-Noah


sorry no pics.  dmb is not very friendly with cameras.  both mics were on 1 stand.  the V3 source at ~14 feet.  and my 480's clamped about 2 feet lower than his.  both A-B pointed dead on the stack from 6th row.  stack was probably about 20' away from the mics.

 

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