Topic: Looking for a Kangol, or something like that.....

[sparkey]

Anyone got a link to a hat that won't clash with my Schoeps?  Think actives>Nola Kwon bar....

Thank you!

Josh

[SparkE!]

Here's one for you 
(Roll over and click)

[edtyre]

Here's the standard ventair thats popular with some folks.

http://www.berkeleyhat.com/kangolventair.html

[sparkey]

Here's the standard ventair thats popular with some folks.

http://www.berkeleyhat.com/kangolventair.html

Thanks!

Any suggestions on sizing?

[su6oxone]

http://www.berkeleyhat.com/kangolventair.html

That place is still around, cool.  Bought a 'Wayne's World' baseball cap there almost twenty years ago. 

To the OP, any Kangol hat in the 'ventair' or 'bamboo' (what I use) line will work well.  For sizing, if you have an 'average' size head, probably M to L, with S for small heads and XL for larger ones.  They have a size chart on the Kangol website I think.

[fmaderjr]

Size chart:
http://www.kangolstore.com/help_sizes.aspx

[sparkey]

Size chart:
http://www.kangolstore.com/help_sizes.aspx

The furry Kangol is pretty sweet.  They should make it in purple and call it the P-Funk.

[stevetoney]

FWIW, the ventair's have a really nice hat band that's not too elastic and not too tight.  It makes the size of the hat a little less critical.  FWIW, I'd err a little small for a ventair than a little big.  For any other hat, I'd probably err the other way, but these Ventairs really have alot of give to them.  OTOH, if you're confident of your hat size, I'd go with the size you know you wear.

Having said this, you want to be as inconspicuous as possible when stealthing, therefore I recommend this one...

[zeus163]

I wish I had seen the price of the Kangol ventair's from the store in Berkeley. I just spent $40 on a black one. I got a large as per the size measurements and think it will work out great for some AKG's.

[fmaderjr]

Having said this, you want to be as inconspicuous as possible when stealthing, therefore I recommend this one...

That's funny as hell, but when you think about it you may have accidentally hit on something here.

What security guy is going to suspect a smacked ass wearing a hat like that is actually a clever stealth taper?  Might actually work well for someone with a low embarrassment threshold.

[SparkE!]

Having said this, you want to be as inconspicuous as possible when stealthing, therefore I recommend this one...

That's funny as hell, but when you think about it you may have accidentally hit on something here.

What security guy is going to suspect a smacked ass wearing a hat like that is actually a clever stealth taper?  Might actually work well for someone with a low embarrassment threshold.

There are lots of very silly hats out there:

[Josephine]

My favorite.

[stevetoney]

My favorite.

Yeah, that guy on the left looks pretty goofy!

[dgale]

One of my favorite hat-related taping memories was at HSMF in 2000, when they announced right before the beginning of Dr John's set that he wasn't cool with taping...you've never seen such a wide array of hats surface so quickly ;-) 

[Jhurlbs81]

you can grab a ventair from Lids in the Mall. I sewed elastic loops in my brim and stick the caps/collette them.  Works great.

[fleish]

You could probably fit full-on mic bodies in the Tiki Totem Cap



http://www.berkeleyhat.com/3409.html

[Belexes]

^Reminds me of an Easter Island head.

[stevetoney]

Wear this and you'll be able to stealth anyfuckinwhere you wanna! 

[Bullet1979]

It'd be really awesome if someone did a write-up or took pictures of their Kangol DIY so people like myself with less intuitiveness/imagination could make one.... just sayin' 

[mfrench]

[mfrench]

I see all the good hats, except the LD stealth hat

[MattD]

I have a vent air left over from when I sold my rig. I only wore it a few times and it has been washed since, though it's been sitting on the shelf for the better part of a year now. PM me if you want it. Cover shipping and it's yours.

[sparkey]

I have a vent air left over from when I sold my rig. I only wore it a few times and it has been washed since, though it's been sitting on the shelf for the better part of a year now. PM me if you want it. Cover shipping and it's yours.

PM sent, many thanks! 

[easy jim]

[sparkey]

I like how this thread has devolved into funny pictures

[travelinbeat]

I found my hat at WalMart.  Kangol Ventair knock off, saved me like $20 buks vs. going the brand name route, plus I don't feel bad about "altering" it

[Bullet1979]

Shooting foot pictures aside, what is the general placement of mics in these Kangol hats?  What sort of modifications are necessary?  I have several pairs of mics so I'm wondering which mics can be mounted in these hats, especially CA-11's...  I remember Chris saying his mics cannot be mounted in a baseball hat mount because of the vents - so I'm assuming the same thing would be true with this configuration?

[mfrench]

[Bullet1979]

Congratulations, you have successfully learned how to use google images...  However maybe you don't have a firm grasp of the concept of Darwin Awards.  I can only assume you're trying to imply that I am unintelligent because I'm not familiar with Kangol hats - which is fine - good for you for having an opinion and wanting to express it with pictures... but just so you know, a Darwin Award is awarded to someone who shuffles him/herself loose the mortal coil (or becomes sterile) by doing something inherently stupid... 

Seriously, though... I'm respecfully requesting advice from people with experience with these hats.  Thanks in advance!

[Belexes]

I missed Moke in these threads. Welcome back.

[mfrench]

Congratulations, you have successfully learned how to use google images...  However maybe you don't have a firm grasp of the concept of Darwin Awards.  I can only assume you're trying to imply that I am unintelligent because I'm not familiar with Kangol hats - which is fine - good for you for having an opinion and wanting to express it with pictures... but just so you know, a Darwin Award is awarded to someone who shuffles him/herself loose the mortal coil (or becomes sterile) by doing something inherently stupid... 

Seriously, though... I'm respecfully requesting advice from people with experience with these hats.  Thanks in advance!

Get out there and try techniques - the old fashioned way.

[sparkey]

Seriously, though... I'm respecfully requesting advice from people with experience with these hats.  Thanks in advance!

[snip]

Josh

[mfrench]

A hat will get you looked at, investigated, and busted. It will not work in circumstances where hats are not allowed (but loud, drunk, rookie concert going crowds need not worry about this).
The mics get buried in fabric and circumstances that are truly unfriendly to audio, so you get that sound like it was recorded from a tissue box, or, from a bowl of mud (worse than schemps), or maybe the cheesy layer of a pocket cooked grilled cheese sandwich -- which is probably why Chris Church doesn't want his product to be placed in a hat - because it sounds like shit in there, and he cares about how his product sounds.
There are far better methods than a hat - but I'm not willing to discuss them publicly,  and I'm not willing to discuss it by PM either.
Get out there and record. Try a technique, if it works, try it again. If it doesn't work, don't try it again.
There is nothing so crucial coming through a PA system that the world will end if it is not recorded to the finest degree, or a total failure, or not recorded at all.

[sparkey]

A hat will get you looked at, investigated, and busted. It will not work in circumstances where hats are not allowed (but loud, drunk, rookie concert going crowds need not worry about this).
The mics get buried in fabric and circumstances that are truly unfriendly to audio, so you get that sound like it was recorded from a tissue box, or, from a bowl of mud (worse than schemps),

[snip]

[Belexes]

At a venue I attend in Milwaukee, all hats have to come off as you go through security.  They do get some attention.

[JD]

At a venue I attend in Milwaukee, all hats have to come off as you go through security.  They do get some attention.

I've seen the same at some shows that I've been to.

[Josephine]

At a venue I attend in Milwaukee, all hats have to come off as you go through security.  They do get some attention.

The same is true in Los Angeles.  I have been asked more than once to remove my hat.  Bringing attention to various types of headgear in threads like this is really not wise.  Moke is quite right pointing out to members here who insist upon posting on this topic:  You are shooting ALL OF US in the foot.

[acidjack]

Agree.  I got jumped all over when I posted a similar thread earlier, and frankly, now see the error of my ways.  Please remove this thread or at least remove the reference to the exact brand of hat you're using.

I fully agree with being reasonable and not outrageous about "keeping stealth stealth" but this is a little much, at this point....

At a venue I attend in Milwaukee, all hats have to come off as you go through security.  They do get some attention.

The same is true in Los Angeles.  I have been asked more than once to remove my hat.  Bringing attention to various types of headgear in threads like this is really not wise.  Moke is quite right pointing out to members here who insist upon posting on this topic:  You are shooting ALL OF US in the foot.

[sparkey]

Done.

Agree.  I got jumped all over when I posted a similar thread earlier, and frankly, now see the error of my ways.  Please remove this thread or at least remove the reference to the exact brand of hat you're using.

I fully agree with being reasonable and not outrageous about "keeping stealth stealth" but this is a little much, at this point....

At a venue I attend in Milwaukee, all hats have to come off as you go through security.  They do get some attention.

The same is true in Los Angeles.  I have been asked more than once to remove my hat.  Bringing attention to various types of headgear in threads like this is really not wise.  Moke is quite right pointing out to members here who insist upon posting on this topic:  You are shooting ALL OF US in the foot.

[willndmb]

There are far better methods than a hat - but I'm not willing to discuss them publicly,  and I'm not willing to discuss it by PM either.

so basically you are useless in this thread
instead of giving the guy a hard time why don't you just ignore him/it

[mfrench]

I'd prefer to be worthless in this thread than to be as worthless as yourself as a general member here.

[acidjack]

It still says "Kangol" in the subject line...

BTW, if you'd like to discuss some techniques, feel free to PM me.

Done.

Agree.  I got jumped all over when I posted a similar thread earlier, and frankly, now see the error of my ways.  Please remove this thread or at least remove the reference to the exact brand of hat you're using.

I fully agree with being reasonable and not outrageous about "keeping stealth stealth" but this is a little much, at this point....

At a venue I attend in Milwaukee, all hats have to come off as you go through security.  They do get some attention.

The same is true in Los Angeles.  I have been asked more than once to remove my hat.  Bringing attention to various types of headgear in threads like this is really not wise.  Moke is quite right pointing out to members here who insist upon posting on this topic:  You are shooting ALL OF US in the foot.

[Bullet1979]

Sorry, guys... I didn't realize why I was catching flak but I understand now - I'll keep to PM's from here on out on this subject matter.

[Josephine]

Not sure exactly sure what you're looking for, Bullet, but feel free to PM me.

[su6oxone]

Not sure exactly sure what you're looking for, Bullet, but feel free to PM me.

Um, my spider-sense is telling me that bullet is probably a highly motivated security goon trying to pick up ingenious and secret stealthing techniques from well-meaning folks on this forum so that he can bust would be stealthers at the next show at ______.

[yawnfactory]

heres the perfect hat for our lady tapers...there are lady tapers out there, or is that just another myth???

[mfrench]

the spiders are reading with much interest and responding (aka, why its not a good idea to discuss stealth):

[sparkey]

...hate to have a hat fly off my head with some mics attached.

That happened to me while taping Ministry...you can hear lots of interesting things on that tape.