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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #90 on: December 10, 2011, 10:55:25 PM »
My thoughts on hypers,...
Do you like listening to the sound of paper towel toilet paper tubes held to your ears?
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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #91 on: December 10, 2011, 11:32:03 PM »
my thoughts on hypers has always been this:

if you need a hypercard, move closer


I routinely use my mk41s FOB/DFC/20' from stage. I love their sound, period. I just bought some Busman mics, and will be doing alot of subcard work as well, but trust me, the mk41 aint like any other hyper. Their sound is AMAZING IMO ;)
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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #92 on: December 11, 2011, 01:56:04 AM »
my thoughts on hypers has always been this:

if you need a hypercard, move closer

I've heard that from others, and I totally agree with the underlying theory that proper placement is king. That said, there are just some times when I'm faced with the following choices, and only these choices:

A) Use a hyper or tight pattern cap in a less than optimum area.
B) Be a human mic stand in a dense and/or moving/moshing area.
C) Don't record

Many times, the difference between optimum placement and realistically allowed placement is only 15' but due to other factors, it sounds bad in those rooms. I can even think of one venue in town (that I don't really like) where the optimum placement still sort of sounds like ass due to it being a giant reflective cavern without acoustic treatment. So while I don't particularly look forward to using hyper caps (since, I agree, I don't prefer the sound compared to more open patterns), I also don't particularly like the experience because it means I'm selecting a tool due to a bunch of factors which in reality I have little control over.  :-\

Sitting in the balcony about 15 rows back at the symphony tonight, the natural reflections of the room were pleasant and warm. I think there is zero reason to use a tight pattern anywhere in that room for that material. The old theater a block over used for rock shows? Not even close... It's a battle of lesser evils.

My buddy Jeff has this short body set with a range of capsules, including the 4017s and confirmed to me they are basically hypers as far as performance results, not strict shotguns as typically seen by other brands.

I forgot Jeff had a set of the new DPAs, he had them at Donna the Buffalo in the spring didn't he. Do you know if he pairs the 4017s with the tiny bodies? I'd think that would require a stiff(er) shock-mount or something else to counterbalance it. Maybe not.
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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #93 on: December 11, 2011, 12:40:12 PM »
my thoughts on hypers has always been this:

if you need a hypercard, move closer

I understand what you're saying, and if you run a mobile rig that's true.  If you have assigned seats, or are usually forced to set up in the back of a room (often the case for me), perhaps less so.

...and of the ones I've heard, Bean's pulls with the upfront hypers are, indeed, great  ;D  Of course, MK41s don't sound as "hyper-like" as some other manufacturers IMHO.
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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #94 on: December 11, 2011, 04:09:10 PM »
Who runs the new DPA series?
Are there examples recordings?

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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #95 on: December 11, 2011, 11:58:20 PM »
my thoughts on hypers has always been this:

if you need a hypercard, move closer

I understand what you're saying, and if you run a mobile rig that's true.  If you have assigned seats, or are usually forced to set up in the back of a room (often the case for me), perhaps less so.

...and of the ones I've heard, Bean's pulls with the upfront hypers are, indeed, great  ;D  Of course, MK41s don't sound as "hyper-like" as some other manufacturers IMHO.

Jack, thanks for explaining that because I couldnt say it that way ;D 8) Hell, Ive even used hypers on stage/stage lip w/ killer results :)
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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #96 on: December 12, 2011, 10:26:40 AM »
Another scenario where (good sounding) hypers are useful is X/Y, where I like hypers better than cards- moves closer to the sweet & open Blumlein sound but with more forward sensitivity.
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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #97 on: December 12, 2011, 02:09:54 PM »
My thoughts on hypers,...
Do you like listening to the sound of paper towel toilet paper tubes held to your ears?

We all dont record in nice venues tho M0k3. So running cards every show is the same as me running hypers every show :P :)
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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #98 on: December 13, 2011, 03:29:37 PM »
Those look really nice, & not as large as I was worried they might be.

No, they're quite small.  I was kind of worried too, but only 58 - 64 mm for all of the caps with the compact bodies (except for the 2011 and 4017).  Very well made, too.  Nice solid feel and the the threads are super smooth...

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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #99 on: December 16, 2011, 07:54:15 AM »
now we just need to get them to make the low profile xlrs in lengths shorter than 10 meters

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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #100 on: December 16, 2011, 08:04:35 AM »
^^ They do!  It says on their website, "Custom lengths can be ordered."  I am in the process right now...

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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #101 on: December 16, 2011, 12:03:47 PM »
guess i can't read.  interesting.  you mind posting pricing info? (or PMing if you don't want to post publicly?)

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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #102 on: December 16, 2011, 12:16:18 PM »
guess i can't read.  interesting.  you mind posting pricing info? (or PMing if you don't want to post publicly?)

and if you don't post it, can you PM me too?
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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #103 on: December 16, 2011, 12:26:29 PM »
^^ They do!  It says on their website, "Custom lengths can be ordered."  I am in the process right now...


I had them make my 4023's a custom length. I don't remember how much they charged for it, but I don't think it was too bad.
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Re: Looks like DPA is making a series with removable caps
« Reply #104 on: December 17, 2011, 04:08:08 PM »
scb and page:  I got a mail from a woman at DPA yesterday asking me to request a quote from one of their dealers.  I asked her to directly forward the price to my DPA vendor and also sent them (the vendor) a mail about the same.  DPA said they have to contact the factory and I should expect more information on Monday...I'll let you guys know what they say...

 

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